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Big Brother 19 – Down To The Final 4


Feeds have been down for a day, but it doesn’t matter because the leaks are already out there! If you are reading this thread live and don’t want spoilers, I will pretend this is a live show and not post anything about it until it happens on TV.  If you’re wondering about the leaks and who won HoH, check here

Now, if you’re wondering what I mean by pretending this is a live show, that’s because the episode tonight was recorded last night and it’s not actually live tonight. Tomorrow’s show will be live, but tonight isn’t even though they’ll likely pretend it is. Got it?

It’s down to Alex and Kevin as one of them will be leaving the house and the other almost certainly next barring some competition miracle. This season of expecting the expected continues as none of these people even put up a fight on their way out. The biggest thing production has going for it right now is the narrative that Josh may turn on Paul which we all know won’t actually happen until the final 3 at best. I do think there is around a 50/50 chance Josh will take Paul or Christmas should he win the final HoH, but any of that would happen next Wednesday night so we wouldn’t even have any time to enjoy the twist.


What we do know is that the final HoH competition is played in 3 parts. The first is typically an endurance competition and the two losers from that competition square off in round two for a very physical veto-style competition. I’m pretty sure it’s been that way for years, so if that’s the case, the race for HoH will be down to Josh and Paul by default (assuming Kevin and Alex leave this week). There is no way Christmas can compete in both of those competitions so if they change anything to make it so she can, that’s the cherry on top of a shit season. When she was allowed to stay in the house for some odd reason after her injury and surgery, they said they wouldn’t change up anything on her behalf.  I know she’ll pout and complain that she can’t play in the final HoH competition, but she was warned of that well ahead of time.

Either way, it should be interesting to see how they handle this because her injury puts production in a bind they should have seen coming. With her injury, there is absolutely no reason why they need to play the first two rounds of the competition which creates a pretty anti-climatic finale. I know they’ll probably have Josh and Paul play the endurance comp and they’ll set up some round 2 competition where Christmas pretends to play like she did the racing comp, but that is going to be incredibly dull.  So, either they’re bracing for a super dull finale or they’re going to go against their word and change up competitions to allow her to play. Kind of a shit sandwich they made for themselves.

Updates on the show….

  • Begins in 40 minutes!
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  • I am noticing my editor still has a popup, I am trying to fix it. I will update this post when I can. Until then, please post updates in comments!
  • Anyway, as you noticed, Alex evicted, Christmas rooted for Paul to win HoH which he did. Fun stuff
  • 12:00 am – Feeds are back up. Christmas and Paul are sleeping and Kevin is dancing with some yogurt or ice cream
    • Note – I am having serious issues with the pop-up thing that I do not want. I may have to shell out $200 to fix it, but I can’t stand this site having a pop-up. There is nothing I can do for it tonight but it will hopefully be fixed tomorrow. Luckily there is absolutely nothing going on with the feeds right now.

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  1. Mel

    This was discussed a couple of threads back but I wanted to know if anyone actually saw the clip of Christmas saying that she used to work for Paul’s mom. Celebrity dirty laundry and TMZ are notorious for putting out false information. I’m not saying it isn’t true and we all know how I complain about production but I haven’t found a site that has produced the video footage to prove it. Also, Christmas’ comic has a camel toe and they call her a lunatic. They definitely didn’t do Paul or her any favors with their comics.

  2. AIO_7

    One thing we can rejoice in; Alex goes to jury before Kevin. That’s a moral victory.

  3. AIO_7

    “There is something that is creating an unwanted pop-up. That is not intentional and I’m going to be working to figure out what is causing it so you may notice weird changes to the site.”

    Yep…avatar’s are gone, and so are the thumbs. Plus it back to your old avatar.

  4. AIO_7

    “I will murder families”….Delightful Christmas.

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    I don’t care who wins…. The melt downs in here are far more entertaining, and some have been outright hilarious…

    Alright folks….. gut check time. Which HG during any season do you think “your” game play would have emulated? Too many Dr. Phil wannabes in here…. The real answer is none of you know how you would act if you were put in that environment with 500K on the line….

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      I’d be Vanessa… Smart, manipulative, and crying all the time :p

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      You are right Wayne. I hope I wouldn’t have acted like any of them. I know I wouldn’t have bullied anyone and wouldn’t have been quiet about it. Actually, I don’t think I could do the house at all as it would drive me crazy if I couldn’t get by myself for awhile and just read a good book. Plus I’m way too old so I would be kicked out first. I could probably do it that long.

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      @wayne this is the first season I’ve watched so I don’t know whose game play mine would mimic but I know for sure this would not be a good experiment for me personally. All of their habits – especially Alex, Matt and Paul’s would cause me to self-evict on day 1, maybe day 2. I am definitely not trying to insinuate I would handle things better or play a better game. I am fairly sure I would shut completely down and isolate myself which isn’t very interesting to watch. I have said all season I’m more interested to see what happens to all of these people once they are back home. I don’t think they follow up but I’m so curious to see/hear about their self reflection (if any), how they monetize their time in the house and if it really makes a difference in any of their lives. If Paul makes it to the end, I hope he wins but for game sake, I hope someone challenges him and either knocks him out or makes him legitimately question whether he’ll make it to F2. I don’t see that happening though.

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    I am hoping they show the Jury House this week, I want see what Alex has to say to Jason about his Eviction & hers!!! And for Alex to fill Matt, Raven, & the rest of the Jury House in on what was REALLY going down in the BB House with Paul.

    BTW…What is going on with the Message Board today, We can Not give Thumbs Up, or Down. And our Avatars, the Ones with Initials, which have been M.I.A for a week & a half, and the Photo Avatars as of today are Missing?! What is up Steve Beans???

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      They really don’t care, but honestly, it would suck if Paul lost to a bitter jury two years in a row. Paul is the only one that has even played this year.

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        Paul didn’t lose last year because of bitter jury. He really wasn’t a leader last year so didn’t screw many people. He just picked the wrong person to take with him. But who knows, maybe James would have won. Paul did some pretty nasty things to people last year but not anything like this year.

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        I have to say that listening to Alex tonight, it sure sounded to me like there was no way she would give Paul her vote!! And Jason acted like he felt the same when he left. Unless they cool down a lot, Paul may have problems getting the votes he needs against anyone but Kevin.

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        Alex and Jason are terrible people. Alex is mean; she was even mean to Jason, calling him stupid and such. Jason is vile too with his “jokes.” and Cbristmas is horrid too with statements tonight.

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        I hope they give it anybody BUT Paul!

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        I hope that your opinion of Paul isn’t shared by all those who vote for favorite houseguest. Man oh man… I can’t stomach that guy! I can’t for the LIFE of me understand producers bringing him BACK! Please… enough of Paul!!!

  7. AIO_7

    Nice hinky vote, Paul. Slosh shouldn’t even have to vote.

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    Voting for “AMERICA’S FAVORITE HOUSE GUEST” is now open on CBS.com. Voting will continue Now through September 20th @ 9:59 AM!

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    What the heck Christmas?!?!? Saying you’re going to murder families… Seriously, so gross! She should be removed from the house too. Can we please just give Paul the money, so we can get this over with?

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    Goodbye messages for Alex, uh nah. Guess not.

  11. AIO_7

    I’d have lost this contest as well.

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    To vote for AFP do I have to be a live feed subscriber? I cancelled my live feed subscription a week ago.

  13. Wendy

    Shocked at how stumbled Alex was talking to Julie…. it’s like all her guilt is finally coming to a boil…. how many times did she apologize to Jason’s wife and to Jason? 2-3 it was almost sad to see she is also still not understanding where she went wrong. Blaming Paul…. but, it was her!!

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    Alex saying Paul ran a shady game is classic… How shady and hateful has she been to Kevin all summer?!?!?

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    I really hope Kevin wins POV!

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    The best part of Alex leaving could possibly be that her picture will never be shown again at the beginning of a thread. For the love of all that is holy, please, no more.

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    Must be something wrong with the voting on CBS. It let me just keep voting. I thought it would say you use all your voted like before, but nope it let me vote 40 times.

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      I voted 600 times and could have kept going but finger got tired and I got bored. Didn’t even have to sign in. It appeared I was still signed in from last year. I finally signed out and put in husbands stuff and voted for him. Also no limit. Signed back to me again and no limit!!

  18. hogwild

    So does Paul finally offically win next Wednesday?

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    Thumbs up if you think this could very well be the worst season of Big Brother EVER!!!!

  20. NKogNeeTow

    To the people who sent me messages, I’m not ignoring you. I had an emergency Monday and didn’t get back until late last night and this is the first chance I’ve had to get on all day. I tried answering, but I’m having trouble with sending replies, but I promise I will respond. I’m going to try again later. I managed to get home in time to see tonight’s show, but I have a lot of catching up to do on the board.

    Hope all our friends in Texas, Florida, Mexico and all the other areas in peril, are still doing okay. 🙂

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    I just have to throw in my two cents…

    This season has been extremely frustrating for me to watch. I am not a Paul fan, but I am not a Paul hater either. I just want to watch good competition. This has been a nightmare for me to watch.

    I really believed that once Cody was gone that the house would start playing, however it never happened. They all played Paul’s game and there were MANY times throughout the game that one of these 3 ride or dies outed Paul to another group, but they never picked up on it. It is so absurd that even after Jason was back-doored, Raven was then voted out, and Kevin was saved Alex still believed she was in Paul’s plans. I was in disbelief.

    Congratulations to Paul. It is not his fault that the competitors sucked. He deserves the 500K, but now that everyone’s pride is hurt and they realize how stupid they played who knows what will happen.

    I’m just hoping that Kevin wins Veto to somehow throw a wrench into things.

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      Ugh, why! I don’t want to see Kevin go 🙁

      • Helen

        Me either but I am trying to look at the bright side in that we had him all summer..a bright spot in a house of hate…..I hope he is voted AFP ….I know I cast my first 20 votes his way and asked my family and friends to do the same.

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        If I was in Paul’s position as hoh now, I would take Kevin to final 2. I think even a bitter jury wouldn’t vote for Kevin.. I would take Kevin off. Kevin gets the only vote and probably Paul would tell him to take off josh. Neither Christmas nor Kevin can win so he wins and takes Kevin and wins. Of course I don’t want him to win, but this seems best plan to go up against weakest players.

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    Let’s hope that production throws Kevin a bone and comes up with a POV competition that he can win. Like, how about a competition based on 1970’s trivia?

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    I think final 2 will be btwn Paul and Josh. Christmas walks away with nothing not even her dignity. Kevin I’m hoping gets AFP.

  24. LindsayB

    So it’s time for the AFP vote. Everyone wants the voting and results to legit right? Not rigged? Not hinky?

    So multiple accounts is legit? Doesn’t that contradict the outrage over the idea of things possibly not being legit? It get so hard to keep up with when things are ok and when they aren’t.

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      Multiple accounts are legit. You have to have a legitimate email address. We have three people in our family and I vote for us all. Nothing wrong with that.

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      Hey Linds…
      CBS let me vote about 100 times about an Hour ago, I’m not kidding…lol?! Hey did you guys get the Thunder, & Lightening Yesterday too up North???

    • Mel

      Every account you sign up with has to be legit so I suppose it just boils down to how many email accounts a persons willing to have or how many family members with an account they can get to vote the way they want.

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      My lord you are bitter for the one person that wants Paul to win

      • LindsayB

        Marta, what part of that is bitter? The hypocrisy driven by Paul hate is hilarious. And ridiculous. You all want to see the results from the first vote of the season. The three temptations were known before the season started. I know 100% if someone came on here and said they had multiple accounts to vote for Paul to win that, and I’m sure some people did, it would still be cried about daily. Hell, that vote gets brought up daily as it is. That’s what bitter looks like. I don’t care who wins AFP. Hell, I don’t really care who wins the game cuz I don’t see a penny from any of it. People bitch about the show then turn around and do the same things they’re bitching about on here. The social experiment of BB fandom is the true disappointment of this season.

      • WhereisPablo

        Lindsay is not the only one who wants Paul to win, or the only one to see the things she points out. Lots of people just don’t comment often.

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      @LindsayB I was thinking about that yesterday – the fact that you have up to 20 votes a day (per account) and there’s no monitoring of it just means that whoever has the most dedicated fans can win. Not any different than any of the other stuff everyone complains about. It just gives fans the appearance of having a say/being involved.

  25. The Artist Formerly Known as Gerardo (Chen Moonves)

    Feed are back up, and literally the first thing I see is Paul and The Nightmare together in the HOH bed… Then the camera pans out a bit and we see the Meatball also asleep on the other side of the same bed. What a horrifying little family moment!

  26. NKogNeeTow

    Paul in Wave Room talking to us. He just said he plans on taking Josh to the end.

    Josh came in and interrupted for a minute, then left.

    Paul continues by saying that he’s never been on the block. He says he misses his family and his Little Burrito.

    Josh comes back in, looking for Kevin.

    Paul tells him that Kevin might have self evicted (he’s in the DR).

    Paul is thanking his friends (*for what he put us through, he should send us all a check*)

    He says HI to his BB18 family and tells them he wants to meet up with them after the show.

    He says he’s in shock and awe that he made it this far. Says he thought it was impossible.

    Josh comes back in again and tells Paul that Kevin is in his corner. He tells Paul that he’s just been called to DR.

  27. NKogNeeTow

    Paul says he thinks Josh is his best bet to win.

    He says that if he doesn’t win, that he doesn’t know what he’ll do.

    He said he’s(himself) played a hell of a game and hopefully he wins.

    Says he doesn’t know what he’ll do if he lets his family, friends and fans down again. He said that would suck.

  28. Jenny

    “Feeds are back up. Christmas and Paul are sleeping and Kevin is dancing with some yogurt or ice cream”

    Kevin dancing with his ice cream was hilarious. He is clearly bored out of his skull.

  29. Jenny

    Paul: Would I do it again? Yeah.

    good GOD please don’t bring him back again. I can’t listen to this guy talk about how awesome he is for another season. I hate his stupid face. He might deserve to win but if I never see him and his beard and that stupid tattoo… ugh! GO AWAY, PAUL!!!

    • The Artist Formerly Known as Gerardo (Chen Moonves)

      I feel like all those fake ass tears Paul was trying his best to push out tonight were his attempt to repair his reputation. I think he’s realized that he’s lost a lot of support due to his antics this season and now that the season is wrapping up he’s going into extreme damage control mode. It’s a shame too– Paul started off BB18 as one of the most hated HGs and ended up as one of the most popular. Now he’s pretty much back where he started. I hope he makes the most out his $500K so this massive backlash he’s about to feel next week when he leaves the BB house is worth it. This is yet another reason NOT to bring back vets (at least not as HGs).

  30. NKogNeeTow

    Is anyone else having trouble with their screen jumping around? Now everything in the dropdown box has disappeared too. I also can’t release any comments from first time posters, so for all of you first timers reading the board and waiting for your comment to appear, sorry, I’ll try to release them as soon as the screen lets me.

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    Paul wants to take Josh… that is a good thing at this point because that means he’ll leave Josh in the house… and I can’t wait to see Christmas go and wipe that arrogant smirk off of her face. But, Josh also has said he knows he can’t beat Paul–so if Paul leaves him in the game, Josh is our last hope of getting Paul bounced before Final 2. A small chance–but a chance nonetheless. I never ever thought I would be saying this… but Go Josh!

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      I actually felt sorry for josh when he asked Christmas if she was final two with him. She pretty much let him know the answer was no. You could tell how upset and shocked he was. He said he would still take her.

  32. NKogNeeTow

    Did the group ever blow up on Kevin?

    Nightmare is in the Wave Room talking to the Gnome. They were talking about Kevin, but nothing really bad….for a change.

    He’s telling her that he’s just happy that he won the “last two”. He said if he had let them down, he just couldn’t live with himself.

    He’s telling her about Victor and she says she hopes he’ll be at the party. She ask him what Victor might say. Paul says Victor will say “What the f*ck”.

    He says he gets a little break now, then it’s the end of the game. She says she has agnst. She says she’s been counting apples.

    He tells her there are 367 and 125 lock boxes in the HOH.

  33. NKogNeeTow

    Kevin has joined Paul and X in the Wave Room (Josh is still in the DR).

    They are talking about the different competitions.

  34. NKogNeeTow

    Shouldn’t they have cards by now? Or rubber bands to snap each other with, or something.

    This is SO

  35. NKogNeeTow

    Yep, the system is pretty much jacked alright. I went to the top and clicked on my name and then it almost didn’t let me back in the comment section. Sheesh!

  36. NKogNeeTow

    Josh was singing “Do you like cookies and milk” to the tune of “Pina Coladas” by Jimmy Buffet. Production told him to stop singing.

    Sorry Folks, this is the best I have to work with. 🙁

  37. NKogNeeTow

    Dammit Jenny. Now I feel bad, I just sat here and drifted off to sleep…lol

  38. NKogNeeTow

    POP just asked (at the bottom of the screen), who should get AFP. Jason won by 51%, Kevin came in second.

  39. NKogNeeTow

    Josh is giving X relationship advice. She says it takes a special kind of person to handle her. (*Yes bride of Satan, we know*)

    • Ann

      Yeah, first teach her how to cry after bullying someone, get her to grow a backbone because you sure as hell don’t have one, tell her to be a leader not a follower like yourself & hide all pots & pans.

  40. NKogNeeTow

    Orwell ask: Who do you think will have the biggest influence over his/her fellow Jury members?

  41. NKogNeeTow

    Paul just walked in the room carrying the Veto.

    Josh ask him why was he in the DR so long. He says “Because I won the Veto”.

  42. Mimi Ryan

    Please help me here. I’m convinced that Halloween (12/25) is truly going to hand over the entire game to Paul. Seriously. Josh asked her if she would take him (Josh), only the look on her face said it all. Dear Lord Above, if this person worked for Paul’s mum and knows Paul prior to the start of this pathetic season, I’m so ;( disgusted with CBS & this crappy season of Village Idiots and Bullies. This season is total crap.

    • Ann

      Cougar Day 12/25 is giving her game to Paul & helping him out so much because she’s in love. Little does that she-man steroid bipolar psycho know that Paul is just not that into her. She miht be a bunny boiler Paul, better call home & tell mama to hide your animals.

  43. NKogNeeTow

    Josh just told Paul he can’t wait until he cuts his beard and his hair. He says Paul looks a mess.

    X yells “No, I dig the messy look”.

    Paul tells Josh that when he goes to his barber, if it’s to crowded, he gives the barber $100 to take him next.


  44. NKogNeeTow

    Orwell has asked twice if anyone has a question for one of the houseguest, to tweet it and he will try to ask them later in the week. Apparently no one cares enough.

  45. NKogNeeTow

    X and Paul back up in the HOH again. Doing a little Kevin bashing. At this point, is it even necessary?

  46. NKogNeeTow

    They are complaining because Kevin said he only had a few sips of beer last night.

    She says that she noticed that when Josh had win, she noticed that when Kevin was around, the wine always seemed to be missing a little.

    X says that Kevin has addiction problems and it’s sad.

    Paul says Kevin told him that Paul owes him 2 beers. Paul says he doesn’t owe Kevin anything.

    They start talking about being the F3 again. Paul says its nice being in F3 with people he likes.

    He’s bragging about himself again and she’s telling him that he doesn’t give himself enough credit. Sweet Mother of God, Jenny, can I go to bed now?

  47. NKogNeeTow

    Paul ask her what is she looking forward to the most.

    She doesn’t exactly answer. She ask him the same question.

    He says he’s looking forward to going home and seeing his parents.

    She tells him they must be so proud of him.

    He says he’s excited to make out with his pets and make out with them with love and also to be back home in his room….at full peace.

  48. NKogNeeTow

    I can’t do this anymore. I’m already sleepy and they are pushing me over the edge.

    Jenny, I leave you with Gerardo. You two can roll your eyes together…lol.

    Night everybody.

    Have a Great Day! 🙂

  49. NKogNeeTow

    Oh, before I forget….

    Steve, for the last week it says I’m not on a secure network. Is that something you can fix?

    Okay, I’m gone for good this time….Nite

  50. The Artist Formerly Known as Gerardo (Chen Moonves)

    Paul was just telling The Nightmare how he hasn’t had the full BB experience because he never got to experience the Jury House. Aww, poor Paul! I wish I could fix that for you buddy!

  51. The Artist Formerly Known as Gerardo (Chen Moonves)

    Well, it’s finally that time of the season! Now that Paul has secured Kevin’s exit this week, he has now set his sights on his next victim– The Nightmare! He is currently in the HOH with Josh trying to convince him that The Nightmare has kept her hands clean all season and would win against either of them in F2. He is also helping Josh study for Part 2 of the final HOH comp (I just checked and all of the info he’s given Josh so far is accurate).

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    Well, let’s just give him a 1st class ticket to jury & make all his dreams come true.

  53. The Artist Formerly Known as Gerardo (Chen Moonves)

    Here’s something you probably never expected to hear: after tomorrow (when Kevin is evicted), JOSH will officially become the most popular HG currently still in the game (according to most fan site polls at least). He’s already been the 2nd most popular active player for a while now (ever since Jason was evicted). If that’s not a good indication of the slim pickins we have this season, I don’t know what is…

  54. Helen

    Make sure you have a CBS All Access account for voting or your votes won’t count! If it’s letting you vote more than 20x you don’t have it

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    This is my first time commenting in here but I have loved and enjoyed following and reading BB junkies for a few yrs now. Has anyone figured out what happened to ummm I think her name was Megan? The girl who left when the horrible bullying started from Jessica. I think that’s how that went down rite? All I’m saying is Paul being the player he is went in and quickly observed how ppl were from the get. Knowing their bullying qualities in my opinion he figured or got sucked into playing along but from behind the scenes having them all do the dirty work. They are all adults and can make their own decisions and it wasn’t hard to get them to do what they have. So Paul realizing this from the start makes me see that he’s seriously playing this game to NOT come in second this time. It’s definitely not rite by any means but when someone dangles 500g’s in front of u it makes u do whatever it takes to get that money and when the dynamic of those ppl is to do this y wouldn’t he play on that trait? This season in my opinion sucks so very badly and hope that the next can redeem what I’ve come to love about this show. I’ve watched it from day 1 and would hate to see it get worse!!

  56. Helen

    Christmas this year is James from last year….he cast the sole vote to evict Cory and kept Nicole….thinking Paul was taking him to F2.

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    Paul won POV! Truly an amazing feet! What skill, what determination, what inspiration!


    Hold the phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The sun came up…
    The birds are singing….
    Russia hasn’t invaded….
    The North Koreans are still in the north….
    The Yankees won and Red Sox lost yesterday….
    I’m still employed….
    I still have a pulse….
    My cat still likes me….


    I don’t know what to think!

    Oh… I know….. My world hasn’t changed one bit and I’m sure everyone’s world hasn’t changed either….

    You know what?

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    Is it just me, or is anyone else having problems with trying to dm ?

  59. Shivani33

    Thanks to every Junkie commenter for keeping the game going for people who lost power, etc., etc. from Harvey and Irma. Late at night, we’ve sat in our cars charging devices and keeping up with Expect the Expected. It might be a little thing, but it’s meant so much! Reading Steve Beans and all of your observations has been a spot of liight, humor and thoughtfulness. Our power came back at 9:27 this morning. Our little boys, kitties and ALL of us are very relieved. No more peeing in the jungle and being too hot to function coherently. Real home cooked meals, real water from the pump and at last, some ice and even tv. Two nights ago, all the kids in our neighborhood came to our driveway and drew on it with colored chalk. Even a toddler showed up wearing his diaper, with his binky in his mouth. He hollered with delight as he drew birds and money. I was completely thrilled and enchanted…and have a new friend!

    Again, thank everyone from our Junkie family. You mean so much. And the word COMFORT has whole new shades of meaning, as it always does whenever things get rough. love from Shivani33

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    what are the chances that Christmas goes Rogue and votes out Josh instead of Kevin? that way Paul would have to take her instead of Kevin to end

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