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Big Brother 20 Is Looking A Lot Like BB15

Here we go again!

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Big Brother is under fire once again for something that is virtually unpreventable in the environment they have.  US Weekly picked up the story of JC’s sexual aggressiveness and the conversation between Angela and Rachel that sparked some outrage.

Here are some quotes from the article:

The latest incident on the live feed occurred Monday, July 2, when it showed houseguests Rachel Swindler and Angela Rummans discussing their skin tones.

“My stomach is as dark as Bay,” Swindler, 29, said, referencing black contestant Bayleigh Dayton. “I can’t be in the sun for two days straight. … I will change ethnicities. I already have.”

To that, 26-year-old Rummans replied: “I’m looking ghetto here with the skin coloration.”

And then they talked about the situation TMZ picked up on which was JC:

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JC Mounduix has also been criticized by fans this season after the live feed showed him appearing to sexually harass his fellow housemates. The 28-year-old walked around the house with an ice cream scooper and told contestant Kaycee Clark to “open up your vagina,” tried to place the kitchen gadget under the blanket of Kaitlyn Herman, and appeared to rub his hand over another female contestant’s vagina as she was getting a massage from her friends

Note – The “female” contestant’s “vagina” that JC rubbed was Tyler’s penis lol.  Good to see the reporting is so thorough that they didn’t even get the gender correct.

Now, I’m not going to defend any specific actions or words. What I am going to defend is that things like this are bound to happen when you toss 16 people from around the country in a house for 3 months and have cameras recording every single word they say. People will blame poor casting, but this is unavoidable unless you want to sit around watching a bunch of people staring at the sky all summer not talking. Big Brother can certainly cast boring people (like myself) and be safe, but nobody is going to ever watch it. They need to cast outrageous personalities and with those personalities sometimes come people who say or do dumb things (like Jessica poking people in the butt).

That’s just the nature of the beast.

Does that excuse anyone from saying something racist or sexist? No. Saying that you look ‘ghetto’ regarding a tan is just flat out stupid no matter what. I can certainly understand people being offended by those comments. The thing I do hate is to see the show look bad because of it. If you watch the live feeds, you’re going to hear things you may not like. You’re going to see things you may not like. That would be the same for any reality TV show if they had cameras running 24/7.  In summary – in this case, hate the player and not the game.

Allison Grodner (the producer) apparently came over the speaker yesterday or called offenders into the DR to let them know that they’re not tolerating it at all this season. I’m not sure exactly what that means, but it did have Rachel and Angela spending a better part of the evening clearly upset about it all. JC appeared to be unphased by it, but JC doesn’t appear to be bothered by much. Will they get penalty noms or votes or anything because of it? Who knows. How do you police that? When Rachel said her skin was as dark as Bay’s, that wasn’t racist as much as it was an observation. However, when Angela called herself ghetto, that was racist. Who gets a punishment from that conversation?

Personally, I think Big Brother should keep out of it and let the court of public opinion do its thing. Hopefully, they don’t start punishing people for things they deem offensive because that could be the beginning of the end for the show. Let the public deal with these people and just accept that situations like this are bound to have controversy.

What are your thoughts on the topic?

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53 comments

  1. Ritchie

    Big Steviebeans, what is up? Good to see you running yet another hopefully fun-filled action packed season of Big Brother Junkies #20!

  2. Ritchie

    Its clear what route CBS seems to want to go every season, and its expect anything and everything from these contestants. And no matter what, any press even if its negative press, is still press.

  3. Ritchie

    Whats up to Mel g8trgirl AIO_7 ElaineB Kari B NKogNeeTow Helen Helen HappyHippo Shivani33 danmtruth, and the rest of the regular bbjunkies cast of characters. Hello as well to some of the newbies, and a big where the heck of some of the missing huge personalities of previous seasons?!

    I wanna vent about one player real quick.
    ==========================

    This is Steve’s Arienta (former undercover cop) pre-season bio…
    Do you have a strategy for winning the game?
    Honestly, no. I believe that anyone that goes into the game with a set strategy is set for failure.

    Fail to plan, and plan on failing should be Steve’s new motto. I love it (not really) when a so-called pawn or non target sits on the block and basically lays low. Yes, he did receive some paltry low-level you are safe from a couple of people but overall he is in no way safe.

    Even the damn robot (Sam of course) can practically be seen and heard in almost every segment if not every other segment of last nights BBAD. I like game play, and some form of desperation in trying to save yourself from being voted off, but damn Steve, just to sit around and lay low when you have no true alliances? Cmon man, fight for $500K, unless you already have money and thus don’t really need the winnings?

  4. LO1004

    I agree people say stupid crap and unfortunately it’s for America to see. I’m not as bothered by Rachel and Angela, bc I’m sure when push comes to shove, they aren’t racist. They had a stupid moment. What I don’t like and don’t think anyone should tolerate, is JCs blatent sexual harrassment. I don’t care if Tyler or Rachel were bothered by it in the moment, I’m bothered watching it. I’ve been in that position where I blew it off at the time, but as I look back on things like that, I’m pissed that people thought they had a right to my body, because they don’t. Don’t touch me unless it’s invited. I don’t care if it’s in a joking manner or not.

    • Ritchie

      Very well said! And I do wonder were they passive about it because they are on television, in a game, playing for a boat load of money, or were they shell shocked and didn’t know how to react? But my problem is with CBS, like it should be one of the top rules in the handbook that this type of behavior is not tolerated and should be grounds for automatic expulsion. What else can they be saying to JC behind closed doors in a meeting room?

    • strwar1

      I think JC is just acting very stupid lately. Like if he had a gf in that house? Then those comments would(I say maybe would for that matter of fact)work. But nobody he has is his gf. Also on the note of Rachel and Angela stupid moments? I mean sure we can give them the benefit of doubt at first. But this BB and it is acting like BB 15 a little bit so far. All that’s missing is some racist comments in front of Bayleigh or Swaggy C to turn it into a YUGE shitstorm. I mean come on Rachel is acting very very very cringe and stupid and acting like she is all this so far.

    • Those comments they made were indeed racist, but I do not think they were malicious. I think Rachel and Angela talk that way in their personal lives and do not/did not understand how racist their comments are. We shouldn’t just sweep this under the rug and act like it is no big deal, but it is no where near as bad as BB15.

  5. strwar1

    Rachel is acting racist? No I mean come on she is about to do something stupid at some point. I mean she is a happy hooker and she is using good looks to win a game(she won’t cause she is acting stupid) I mean that’s why I had a weird feeling about Rachel. I just knew she was going to do something stupid. Also Angela? I mean I don’t know where is from?(for the record I don’t really care which state she comes I don’t criticize anybody coming from that state and I don’t put the entire state at fault) but she has been doing something crazy lately. I don’t remember when in After Dark,but I need to look at that.

    Btw? JC doing stupid crap was bound to happen too. I mean granted it was a Tyler lol yup

  6. i agree angela and rachel had a stupid moment, but JC is ridiculous and his behavior should not be tolerated. i bet he gets away with that in real life cause of his stature or something but its just painful to watch

  7. kneeless

    Spot on commentary stevebeans. I think the girls are remorseful & I don’t think they are racists, stupid, yes! JC’s actions should warrant some type of punishment. Until CBS/BB takes stronger action against harassment it will continue.

  8. g8trgirl

    I’ll just say this(directed to our group as a whole): BB will throw people out of the house for threatening someone with a knife. But sexual harassment is ok. I get it now. What if it were your wife or daughter or mom he was “just messing around with”? Would it still be ok?

    • strwar1

      If my gf was in there? I would literally throw a chair at somebody for that. Especially gf would literally almost smack that person especially if it is from JC. Like I am pretty sure he is going to do it again. Ahh BB throws ppl out over knife and threatening,but sexual harassment?yup you can stay cause we got a show.

  9. I think we all say or do things we shouldn’t sometimes. To me the key is do we learn from it and not do or say it again? Do we understand that something we said or did was offensive, hurtful or disrespectful to someone else and not do it again. So, I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt and I’m not going to condemn any of the three for this first time. But now that they are aware and if they do the same thing again then it’s a different story.

  10. Seattle Kari

    I’m sure that I will get some negativity for this but I honestly do not mean it in a bad way.

    This is in regards to the girls comment about getting dark.

    I’m sorry I cannot think of the name of the girl they never said that *BAYLEIGH herself* was ghetto. They were talking about their own bodies and that they were getting as dark as Bay.

    I’m thinking of the ghetto comment more to themselves and people that do the fake and bake look. I’ve seen a lot of white people look pretty damn trashy doing that and I think that’s perhaps what they were talking about?

    Think about it if they had not said Bay’s name, but this have even been an issue? I think it was just not thinking about the way they were wording it, and it was majorly misinterpreted?

  11. hogwild

    I get that part of the show is people being provocative and outrageous but you also have to have some standards and lines you can’t cross and consquences if you do otherwise you will just end up getting people trying to out offend, harrass, and bully each other and that gets old fast.

  12. ElaineB

    Most, if not all of us, would say something deemed “offensive” by someone if there were cameras on us 24/7. On this July 4th, we celebrate freedom of speech. With freedom comes responsibility. Am glad to hear there has been a ‘Put you on notice” speech to the HGs by Production. Inappropriate and/or unwanted touching of ANY kind, needs to be dealt with accordingly.

    • hogwild

      Totally agree as the saying goes one time is an accident, two times is a coincidence, three or more is a pattern that might be a something BB keeps in mind with the way people act on the show.

  13. Colby

    I agree with Steve for the most part. They were put in the house as different individuals, personalities, etc. Let them be who they are, not a bunch of clones or controlled personalities, except where the inappropriate touching comes in.
    Verbally say whatever and let them handle it amongst themselves, and deal with the impression they left on the public when the get out of the house. I think many people are way too sensitive and blow things people say out of proportion these days. The old saying about ‘sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me’ evidently doesn’t apply any more.
    I don’t think there is anyone alive who has not said something sometime that they regret and is out of character for them, or that has been misinterpreted.
    But the inappropriate touching is a different story. I do agree with them giving Keebler a warning, but if it happens again after that he should be booted. Quite frankly, most straight guys I know would have punched him for grabbing their junk, just out of reflex.
    But I agree with Dan about them not wanting to complain and get someone in trouble or booted because it may put a target on them by some others. (except maybe snowflake Winston who wants to tattle about noises.) They all want to win the game.
    I also agree with NKog that Keebler does say some pretty accurate things about game play when he is not being a perv. But I will be very happy to see him go……I don’t like him at all.
    That is just my two cents…………

    • ElaineB

      The level of what one will tolerate, is up to each HG. No one watching can be a “surrogate” on behalf of a HG, for identifying and reporting misbehavior. Since I find A LOT of what goes on in the BB house offensive, I no longer choose to subscribe to the feeds. Though I have made that choice, it is fine for other viewers to make different ones. CBS will do what is successful for their bottom line (ratings/money).

  14. NKogNeeTow

    I’m hoping that we don’t have another season of racist, and with this group, I don’t think that we do. I’m going to give Rachel and Angela the benefit of the doubt and just go with they were just talking in general and NOT targeting Bayleigh.

    One thing that does bother me though, and no one has addressed it yet, is Swaggy’s continuous use of the ‘N’ word. He uses it constantly. What I don’t want to see is that by him using it so freely, others become so comfortable that they say it or let it slip. I’m pretty sure that the first time someone else does, they will either be deemed racist or if he hears them say it, he will be screaming racist or want to fight or demand that Production does something about it. If you don’t want to hear a word used, don’t use it. It’s not something that Production has to jump on, but I just don’t want Swaggy to put himself in a position where he feels compelled to defend himself against a word that he uses more than anyone in the house, yet doesn’t want to be referred to/as.

    • Ann

      I 100% agree with you. I hate that word. I’ve noticed that people of different races call each other that word now. It’s becoming a common thing now but as soon as someone from a different race calls another that word its a problem. I don’t want to be called that by any race. It’s offensive to me no matter who uses it. It shouldn’t be used at all. I can’t tell you how embarrassing it is to hear that lame brain fool using that word.

  15. Helen

    Change from subject I know but I have a bad feeling Chakra is here for the long haul…she reminds me of Nicole and I have a sinking feeling she will be one of the two at the end

  16. Angela’s comments were derogatory and ignorant. They’ll probably be more where that came from, sadly.
    Also it would be nice if they casted 1-2 older women.

  17. AIO_7

    Sam campaigning to Scottie. Scottie pinky swears his vote.

    https://postimg.cc/image/mptiexnp7/

  18. Helen

    Last night on feeds Winston and Brett have decided to vote for Steve to stay….don’t know if they will but that is their current plan

  19. hogwild

    I’m ready for them to start thinning the heard enough talking time for people to put up or shutup.

  20. Bobbi514

    Just remember those remarks some make will come back to bite them in their ass as several throughout BB history have lost their jobs due to their actions in the house ~ no matter what CBS does or production real life awaits them after they walk out and public opinion does not forget those caustic remarks as I guess most keep forgetting in the back of their minds the public/society is watching and you think there won’t be reprisals for remarks sadly history will repeat itself in their own form of punishment. Am not a prude so cussing doesn’t bother me and some jokes about how dark someone is getting is just nothing more than a joke like having heard some say in years past wow you are as white as a cracker ~ but now in light of the #metoo movement I think JC actions should be put to a halt asap as that is not needed or acceptable…and that is my little 2 cents

    • hogwild

      I remember couple years ago on survivor one player brought up as part of his game play another player was transgender and going to be transitioning from male to female. The guy who did that lost his job and caught all kinds of hell for doing that. The guy he did that to forgave him they patched things up and he got a new job and his life wasn’t ruined still it’s a reminder just because we have the right to say something it doesn’t mean we should.

  21. AIO_7

    I didn’t realize until just now that they have a Foosball table this season.

    FYI … Tonight’s CBS show starts at 9pm..

    https://postimg.cc/image/dbs692cd7/

  22. Alda

    it’s early in the season but have you noticed the women aren’t spending hours in front of the mirror putting on makeup and playing with their hair extensions?That’s a plus.

  23. SammyD

    The whole point of Big Brother is to be cut off from the outside world. Anytime production interferes with sensitivity issues unless of course, it creates bodily or physical harm, should be left alone. Let’s not forget Big Brother 15 and Aaryn Gries with her homophobic and racist comments inside the house. She learned a valuable lesson once she was evicted from the BB house – and about her employment future.

    The BB houseguest knowingly enters the game with the understanding that everything is recorded 24 hours a day seven days a week until they depart the house. The irony of the BB game is that many things said in the BB house is typical of Amercian culture and said on a daily basis in privite and sometimes in public. Rather than alter a game for poor or undesirable langauge, we should allow the game to continue uninterrupted and unadulterated so that these behaviors become discussion points in America or elsewhere and to learn how to become better people.

    As for punishment during the game for protected class language? I would not introduce any penalty unless physical harm or unwarranted bodily contact is initiated. Instead, I would allow the audience and media to bring those talking issues during and after the game has played out. Again, the contestants are aware they are being recorded. If the excuse is “it was all gameplay,” then that can be a fair assumption. After all – Expect the unexpected. It is when a contestant leaves the Big Brother house gameplay is over, and reality has a harsh and critical way of settling in. To me that is fair.

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