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Big Brother 20 – Saturday Recap

Good morning! I hope everyone is enjoying the weekend and hope it’s more exciting than what I’m going to recap. As Steve said yesterday, it’s a repeat of last week. This is why I don’t like the battle back. It adds a couple minutes of excitement to the show but in exchange, we have to sit through a dull week. It simply isn’t a good trade imo. If Scottie or Haleigh had won, it would be the same.


KC won the veto, JC lost his dinner, Angela & Tyler wanted alone time and the hg’s had a face mask & nachos. Let’s go:

Before the veto comp:

  • JC said he hoped he didn’t get picked to play in veto. He asked Tyler not to make him a have not. Tyler said it was his turn so he’d have to do it.
  • Tyler told KC he’s annoyed with Brett & JC because they both keep telling him the same things about Ang & KC being too close. He said they both say the other one is bringing it up. He thinks they’ll have to be dealt with soon. (not this week but soon) They agree KC should spend a little more time with them.
  • Hay was still mad over Sam not cheering for her during the hoh comp. (This is getting so annoying to hear, can’t imagine how the hg’s feel. It’s not complicated, people cheer for their team, her team’s been evicted)
  • Veto players were picked and everyone was chosen except Brett and Angela. They both really wanted to play.  JC isn’t happy to be playing.
  • KC still feels nauseous from the hoh comp, it’s why she was in bed so much.
  • Hay had to stop bashing Sam for a while because she needed plenty of time to repeat that she couldn’t win the veto comp. Angela & KC gave her pep talks. (Remember when Hay talked so much crap about Rockstar when she kept being put on the block? Rockstar was stressed about it and Hay had zero patience for it)
  • Brett and KC discussed whether or not JC would even try to win the veto. They’re tired of him feeling like he’s safe either way. KC thinks maybe it’s time for his butt to be the pawn.
  • KC told JC she was worried about Scottie winning and staying this week. She made sure he knew Scottie would probably put JC otb. (that’s one way to make him try)
  • Scottie told Hay about the jury plan they’ve (Bay, RS, Scottie and now Fessy) came up with to intentionally be bitter jurors.

Here’s the plan: They (Foutte/Hive) think they’ve figured out that 6 people have been working together. (L6 plus Sam and JC) If all 5 Hive people are in jury, they’re each going to pick one player they don’t like. The player each one of them gets to choose, gets eliminated as a potential winner. After the 5 Hive players have picked their one person to eliminate, the one remaining person out of the 6 will be the winner. (I’ll give you my thought on this bull shit at the bottom because if you only want the recap, I won’t put you through it !)

  • Between Hay and Scottie, they manage to tell half the house of this plan. (Foutte/Hive was such a terrible alliance, they’re able to continue making mistakes from the jury house. Unbelievable!)
  • Tyler/ Angela talked about the jury plan. They can’t believe people would want to vote that way. They start wondering if they’re the good side or the bad side and if America has rooted for them. (I always get annoyed when people talk about this, Foutte used to say it a lot too)
  • Tyler told Hay he’d never get in a shomance. He let her know what a mistake he thinks it is. He’s partly covering his situation with Angela and also trolling Hay a little. Hay denied her shomance the night before but he knows she’s lying. She told Tyler no one liked Angela and said at least no one on her side of the house liked her. She assured him she loved Angela. She asked Tyler if he was close with Sam. (She used to think they had a F2) He said he isn’t and said Sam would’ve cheered for anyone against Hay because Sam knew Hay would put her up if she won. They talk about being even now since Tyler’s put her up. (Hay keeps wanting assurance about it) This must be the shomance Tyler won’t be a part of:
  • Scottie told Hay he kept getting put otb by people he wouldn’t go after.
  • Hay wants to travel with JC after the show. (I think she’s impressed by how many places he’s been. I am too)

After the veto comp:

  • KC won and L6 is very pleased but Hays poor fingers are not.
  • Brett was pissed because he said he watched Sam throw it. He said she didn’t even try. He said JC almost won so he does feel like he tried to win.
  • Tyler told JC he had to start doing better in comps and he needed to stop telling people he didn’t want to play.  JC said it would’ve been bad for him to win before now because they wouldn’t have been able to accomplish some of the things they’ve done. He said if he’d beat Hay in the HOH she won, he’d have shown his cards by having to pick a side which would’ve ended his influence with the other side of the house.  (JC is the only person left in the house who hasn’t won a comp but I agree with him. Scottie wouldn’t have gone otb during Fessys hoh week, Angela and Tyler would have. They can’t have it both ways) He needs to stop throwing them at this point but L6 has benefited from it all the weeks before. It also sounds like he came in 2nd in this one.
  • Scottie tolls to Angela about the bitter jury plan. (You know, just in case there’s one person left in the house who hasn’t heard!) Scottie told her she has no votes at this point so she needs to make sure almost all of the people leaving from here really like her. She asked if they don’t like her for game reasons or personal reasons. Scottie said it didn’t matter because they aren’t planning on voting for game reasons. (From what I gather, it sounds like Scottie was in on the plan at the jury house but he’s trying to remove himself from the situation when he talks about it now)
  • Hay told KC how terrible of a person Fessy was and she didn’t like the way he talked to her.
  • Hay played with Brett’s hair and gave him a Fessy top knot. (top image)  She told him to get off of her if he heard Sam coming.
  • I noticed Tyler looking away when Angela was in the hoh showering and he went into the bathroom. It reminded me of Fessy bragging to Tyler about being tall enough to see over the shower door.  He always tried to whisper and talk game to Hay while she was in the shower. I remember her getting mad and telling him to back up.
  • Tyler shared his hoh beer with L6 and JC. I think he may have had other plans but Angela got stuck downstairs with Hay. He had a coast to coast toast with KC when they were alone. He had his moment with Brett too and you know, JC wasn’t going to be left out.
  • L6 (minus Angela since she had Hay duty) talked about Scottie revealing the jury plan. They agree no matter what, L6 has to go to the end together. Hay can’t get anywhere near the end or she will win. They said after Scottie, it needs to be Hay, Sam and JC. (in that order)
  • Tyler made sure Angela knew Hay talked about her badly during Hays bathtub pitch. (I think this is insurance since Angela’s spending time with Hay)
  • JC was pissed because he couldn’t find his dinner. He thinks one of the women did something with it but I think Scottie threw it away. Brett made him a new dinner.
  • JC told Tyler again not to make him a have not. He said Scottie should do it. Tyler reminded him Scottie was still a jury vote even if he was being evicted. He told JC he was doing it.
  • Face masks were delivered by Pop TV and they all did one. Have nots ended and they also had nachos.
  • Production put beer and wine in the storage room the hg’s didn’t know was there. I don’t think they ever saw it.
  • Tyler and Angela believe Scottie will go after them. They think Hay will too but is more likely to only put up one of them so she can also nom Sam. They feel Scottie is the safer choice to leave this week.

I’m so annoyed with the jury talk from Scottie that truthfully, I didn’t even feel like doing a recap this morning. I don’t care who wins and I never have. I have people every year that I don’t want to win and even if they win because of a bitter jury, I can (usually) accept it. I’d love it if the players didn’t have feelings and the term “jury management” didn’t have to exist but that isn’t realistic. Many people didn’t think Josh earned his win last summer and felt Paul played a superior game. Many of those same people will admit Paul did a terrible job with the jury. He lied about the game as players were leaving and kept lying on finale night. He left the players feeling bad about him and bad about themselves. This is the recipe for a bitter jury.

Is what we heard yesterday the same thing? I suppose it’s debatable but I think it’s different.  It’s one thing to feel bitter because you can’t help it. I feel that creating a detailed plan to INTENTIONALLY give the prize to the person you collectively hate the least on a PERSONAL level is bullshit and a disgrace to the game. Why have games moves and competitions at all? Why not do what Sam wanted and have picnics and ‘get to know each other better’ activities? I mean, that’s the best and most thorough way to determine who you like, isn’t it?

This idiot alliance has given us a lot of laughs. They weren’t ever going to be known as good players but they could be known as that terrible alliance that entertained us all summer. Something about them being so consistently awful made them more likable. They also have the chance to show up last year’s jury. (It doesn’t matter if you thought Josh or Paul should’ve won. We know the jury voted bitter, it isn’t a secret) They could have the moment of saying “we screwed up the game but we got it together in the end to picked the best winner. Our final decision was a smart one.” It’s made even worse because from the things they’re saying, they know they were outplayed and are acknowledging it. They just don’t care.


I understand it’s early and it could just all be talk so it may change. I don’t feel super good about the odds of that happening and that’s why I’m so annoyed by what was said yesterday. Bayleigh and Rockstar played with a bitter and personal mindset while in the game so I’m not holding out too much hope their personalities change while in the jury house. Haleigh and Fessy had a lengthy conversation last week about their plan to vote bitter on purpose. I gave them the benefit of the doubt at the time and thought maybe they were just mad but would get over it. If they have Rockstar and Bayleigh validating those feelings and plans, I’m not so sure they will.  I’ll get over how I feel today and go back to hoping this won’t happen but for today, I’m pissed.

This was such a stupid thing for Scottie and Haleigh to spread around the house. I’m assuming the reason was to convince people not to fill the jury with Hive people or they’re just idiots! All they accomplished was to have L6 double down and be even more determined to have two L6 people at the end. Bonus point for Scottie & Haleigh: They may have helped Angela get closer to a F2 seat which wasn’t anyone’s plan before.

Hopefully Steve will be in a better mood than me when he updates for you today. I’m going to pout a while, shake it off and be better tomorrow. Hope you all have a great Sunday!


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  1. Avatar

    Just have to hope that after being sequestered in a Jury House, and if this really is the case? After weeks of seemingly being TOLD what to do by Bayleigh and RS? Jury members think for themselves and vote their own way. Yes, an argument (say, if you’re Tyler or Brett) is being made to, for example take Angela to the Final two, and if you’re Tyler? Wouldn’t that be a Win-Win? You might get the 500K, and the possibly the girl. 😉

  2. Mel

    I should be a Foutte member. I used the image of Brett at the top of the recap specifically because he had a top knot but didn’t realize until now, I cut the top knot out of the picture! Lol

  3. Painter1

    This bitter jury voting is really killing the game. The last few seasons has ended in my opinion bad. Even Melissa who admitted riding Ross’s tail got a bitter win. With as many winners BB has now they should figure out a voting where the veterans could choose winner. By game play. Jury still involved but vets too.

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      The bitter jury will be most interesting if Tyler gets to the end.

    • Avatar

      I like that idea, the Jury house votes, but also, maybe, an alumni jury of five or something also votes, so (can’t think of the numbers off of the top of my head) you had the eight smug looking spite voting jury house voters vote who have no influence, and no idea how the (also) sequestered five alumni jury members also voted for a total of thirteen jury votes to determine the winner of next year’s Big Brother

    • danmtruth

      With so many exBB players it makes sense to recruit them to be a jury with maybe the last 4 out of the house
      I agree 9 jury members is too many Out too long This group has only made it worse with thinking that they are just as important as the winner This idea that they feel like they have so much power is sad It also shows how short sighted they are

  4. ElaineB

    Now I hope it will be two of L6 to sit in the F2….it hasn’t been what I have wanted, because I have liked players on both sides. Now with all the jury talks, the Hive members will have to ‘Suck it Up, Buttercup’ (hurry back NK) and vote for one of them. Either way, two of L6 will be 50K and 500K richer, and the Hive will continue to be LOSERS. For AFP, anyone but a Hive member, will be icing on the cake.

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    Great update, Mel. I do see a bitter jury vote at the end. Big babies. I’m ok with any L4 player winning.

    • Mel

      Thank you Vic, I am too as they’ve played the best games. With a real jury, all 4 could actually make a legit arguement for why they should win. After that, it would depend on what each juror values most in the game. Some jurors value comps or who controlled things and some people respect a good social game. All are respectable reasons…if we have a real jury. It may not be a popular opinion but if JC could win a couple of comps and be forced to make some visible moves, he could even make an arguement for it because of other things he’s done too.

      • Colby

        I suspect that JC’s goal was to never win a comp or be put on the block. His F2 argument would be that he controlled things behind the scenes without those two things ever happening.
        But I could be wrong.

      • Mel

        Oh I think you’re right and it was a good strategy. He could have trouble getting votes from some of the L6 jurors if he doesn’t win anything tho since they anything have.

      • danmtruth

        Jc will say he worked with both sides Tried to give advice to Foutte but they did not listen Claim he played a game like Derrick directing the game behind the scene Im not saying he is or was as good as Derrick Just that he will claim to be In any case he will be a hard person to beat at the end

      • Mimi Ryan

        JC could win only with a bitter jury. But JC is a pile of dung in my world. I don’t like his game play, but hey if it gets him $50K or $500K, bravo. But in all reality, JC is just a wild card at this point, previously he believed he was controlling things, but not really. All these ploys and lies will catch up to him and the “Hive” will see they’ve been played by him. The absolutely the worst alliance ever. Fessy, REALLY DUDE, no GAME PLAY IN THAT HOH. Hal was sucker punch at every turn and still didn’t put up JC all because of his facial expression and Sam goes up. BUT OF SILLY GOOSES.

      • Sassy

        Taking personal feelings out of the equation, JC has played a really good game. Without him, L6/5/4 would not have gotten this far. He Was the puppet master of MF. If he would have won comps it would have taken away from what he was able to do up to this point. I do believe he is going to be a bitter juror because he put all his faith in his F2 with Ty. I think the only ones left in the game that I would be upset about winning are Scottie (because he has already been evicted) and Sam (because other than being a vote, she did not contribute to the strategy or plan).

  6. FW aka CY

    The thing is, games like this are supposed to constantly “evolve” and become more intricate as time goes on. Players learn from watching past seasons and, ideally, devise unique stratagems to bypass and/or overcome historic pitfalls and difficult challenges. If the game tending to be decided by likability, instead of gameplay this is most probably due to novices like Sam, or dimwit fame whores like Facial being cast. This should mean that future, “evolved” BB contestants will need to work “newbie” and “production failures” management into their game plans.

  7. dfdsgs

    I posted this on Friday before the bitter jury conversation started and everything Mel just said reinforces my thoughts from then. I think Angela has effectively locked herself into the final two as long as L4 makes it to the end.

    “I have been thinking about it, and I think Angela has set herself up nice to be there in the end. My reasoning is she is probably the only person left in the house that would be a high probability of a win against for everyone else if they sit next to her in the final two.

    I think at this point unless something goes catastrophically wrong you will have at least one of L4 if not two. So the majority of the jury will be voting with at least some bitterness.

    Tylers – only shot at winning is Angela or/and Brett next to him.
    Angela – is screwed but the best shot would probably be Brett
    Brett – is Angela or/and Tyler
    KC – would beat all three

    JC, Scottie, and Haleigh would all win I think at this point since they all currently have three jury votes unless they are there together.

    The one question mark is Sam it would depend on who she is next to, but I think she would win against anyone but Kaycee of L4.

    As weird as it seems since usually, alliances have to break up for someone to win I do think that the best bet for L4 is to go to the end together.

    If you are Tyler and Angela, you try and pit Brett and Kaycee against each other and let one of them take the other out and hope that it is Brett that comes out on top. If it is Kaycee, then Tyler and Angela have to cut her to have any chance. The exciting part would be if Brett won and what Angela would do in that instance.”

    • Helen

      Angela will more than likely go out next week if Haleigh stays…
      She will put Tyler and Angela OTB…there are only 4 votes next week….
      If,and it’s not a huge leap to think this,veto is B.B. comics (which I think it will be) Haleigh stands a very good chance of winning veto…
      She will leave noms the same and Angela will get voted out over Tyler
      Not a pleasant thing to think about but I can see it happening with Haleigh staying…

      • Mel

        Very likely if those are her noms and she wins veto. I still think she’d do the stupid move and make Sam one of her noms.

      • Helen

        We can hope Mel….
        Pretty certain this next HOH will be a crap shoot type comp so the possibility is there for anyone to take the HOH…

      • dfdsgs

        You are also assuming that the other two L4 members are not coming to the same conclusion that they need Angela there in the end.

      • Sassy

        I don’t think she would put up Sam. She would not commit to that when talking to Ty. She kept saying probably but she would have to confer with the house… To me, I heard, hell no, you and Ang have to go up for my revenge! I also don’t think this week will be a crap shoot, because then they would have 2 weeks in a row of luck comps (if the following week is the double).

  8. leafhopper

    They need to have Evil Dick come in and do the Jury Prep this year instead of Dr. Will. Evil Dick will give it to them straight and call them out on their BS.

  9. Shivani33

    Foutte’s jury plans just don’t concern me. As a group these people have been disorganized, contentious and ineffective. I’ve been imagining the many ways that they can screw up their own voting “bloc” ever since Scottie started blabbing about it. And, by the way, Scottie’s info could be ficticious as well. It is easy to picture this jury group arguing together over each step along the way until the very point of their plans gets lost, much like the way they’ve played the entire game.

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  11. delabear

    How about 2 jury votes cast by viewers for the winner? One America and one by only those who pay for feeds would be fair to me. It would make for a 2-night finale, with the Final 2 decided and jury casting their votes the first night which would then be revealed along with America’s votes the following night. The name of the game is Big Brother (and WE are really big brother!), so why shouldn’t we get a say in the results?

    • Mel

      I think the jury still needs to vote, they just need to not be cry baby assholes.I don’t think the voting process needs to be changed. Since production gets involved anyway, maybe they should just remind the jury that fans don’t like players who vote for childish and petty reasons. Remind them to respect the game but tell them they should respect whichever parts of the game they choose. People may vote for players with a good social game but it doesn’t mean they’re bitter. They might value that over comp wins and I don’t have a problem with that at all. We’ll see in a few weeks how it plays out.

      • delabear

        Sorry I was not clear. I meant for the 2 viewer votes to be cast along with the jury votes, not in place of them. The jurors would continue to vote but added to their votes would be 2 additional votes from viewers.

      • Sassy

        I like the jury voting too and think they need that disclaimer about remember the fans and respect the game. I also think the jury should be 7. Bay and RS are going to spend more time in jury than they did in the house.

  12. Holla Derrick

    I’m lost as to how this jury strategy works. The 5 hive members each eliminate 1 of the other 6 and the 1 left is the winner?

    Do they not know that they only choose between the final 2?

    • Mel

      Yes but the person in the F2 who remained after they all eliminated someone from the running, is who they’d vote for.

      • Helen

        Honestly I think that Tyler stands the best chance of winning sitting next to JC (as much as I’d hate to see JC sitting in F2)
        Scottie does not like JC…He would vote for Tyler no matter what the rest of the hive did..

      • danmtruth

        Helen if JC makes it to F2 the old Foutte will give it to him over any L6 Except maybe KC The only way TY wins is he is sitting their with Angela That F2 would be FOUTTE nightmare

      • Sassy

        Dan – you are right! Ty/Ang is their nightmare situation! They definitely hate Ang more, but Ty is a close 2d.

      • Holla Derrick

        What happens if the person left at the end doesnt make final 2?

  13. Sassy

    I am amazed Foutte/Hive continues to make blunders from beyond the game. I’m hopeful this may change, but realistically I don’t expect it too. If Scottie goes to jury and tells how Haha has nestled into their group and hangs all over Brett, she may not be welcomed with open arms when she gets to jury. I would not be surprised if JC and Sam jump onto the bitter wagon and vote with the Hive… as long asL6/5/4 are the F2, it will be a deserving winner regardless of who they choose. They have all played an excellent game and their loyalty has been incredible!! We’ve seen 2 people stay loyal al the way thru but 4, wow! I have a hard time coming up with a scenario that it doesn’t happen, but it’s possible.

    Here’s how I see the finals:

    Angela can’t win
    Tyler can only win if Angela is sitting next to him
    Brett wins over Ty and Ang
    JC wins over Brett/Ang/Ty
    KC wins over JC/brett/Ang/Ty
    Sam beats them all (unless They can’t convince haha to vote for her, then she loses to everyone…)

  14. stillstanding

    ok, i guess i just don’t understand what’s the criteria for someone to ‘deserve’ to win. besides being in f2. number of comp wins? most manipulations? least ‘blood on your hands’? likable personality? best strategy? other than comp wins, alot seems subjective. L6 is playing a great game and their loyalty is superb, but jury management is not a strong point. they knew who they were dealing with. on the other hand, hive has NEVER stuck together, made decisions not based on emotions and couldn’t keep their mouths closed. bitter jury, heck yes, bitter people. should have known better.

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    I didn’t consider the Paul/Josh bite to be a bitter jury. Paul was hateful! He encouraged everyone to be mean. He brought second place on himself.

    I didn’t like Josh’s gameplay either- but IMO it was batter than Paul.

    A large part of the game is getting jury votes and Paul screwed him self on that.

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