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Big Brother 21 – Friday Recap for 9/13/19




(Steve’s note – have some stuff to do today. I expect it to be another slow day but it’s an important veto comp. Hopefully I am home before the veto comp ends and can update you as soon as I hear who wins!)



Howdy ya’ll. Nicole practiced her southern speak last night so I thought I’d chime in too. I usually start off by summarizing the prior day, giving my opinions and follow that up with a more specific recap of conversations and game talk. I’m going to reverse it today because in all honesty, I don’t know what to say. Hopefully, by the time I’ve reviewed what happened again, I’ll have something to contribute because right now, I don’t have a clue. I’m trying to think back, but I can’t remember ever witnessing what I saw yesterday. Other than casual conversation and 4 bored and tired hg’s, here’s what happened:

As always, Beth= Holly 

  • They finally had the luxury comp Christie, Beth and Sis wanted all season. Ovi was there and Jackson won it. He won $10k. (They probably needed one for the Sunday episode. I’d imagine they planned on the hoh comp taking up a big portion of it but that’s not an option since it was so short) Jackson went around telling everyone how he felt guilty for winning because they thought Cliff was upset over losing it.
  • They got the small table:
  • They were all happy to see Ovi and Beth mentioned how different he looked. Jackson said he’d give up his 10k if they could have video msgs from home.
  • Cliff wanted to talk to Jackson and clarify the deal he’d made with him. Cliff had already told Nicole, he realized Jackson was making an assumption over the details and wanted everything to be clear.
  • Beth was worried Tommy  might be Americas favorite and said she doesn’t want to look bad for the way he went out.
  • Cliff met with Jackson and went over their deal again. Cliff had already promised to save Jackson with the veto and Jackson promised to save Cliff (both evicting Beth) Jackson also agreed to take Cliff to the F2 over Nicole. Jackson was under the impression the F2 deal went both ways. Cliff told Jackson he had misunderstood and said it was his intention to take Nicole to the F2. Cliff said he gave Nicole his word and he wasn’t going to break it. Jackson said he understood. (Jackson does not understand at all)
  • Nicole sorted out everything that happened to the cameras (as usual) and said she wasn’t sure who to keep when it came to Tommy. She didn’t know if Tommy would’ve really taken her or Cliff to the F2. She said she knew Cliff always preferred to keep Beth.
  • Cliff took several opportunities to tell Jackson and Beth he was responsible for saving Beth and Nicole wanted to keep Tommy. (Even the night before, Jackson said “once again, the vote came down to Nicole.” Cliff said” well, I think I had more to do with it this week.”)

One of the things I like about Nicole is how much she talks to the cameras. I didn’t like it when people like Jack, Jackson, Christie, Tommy and others would do it for the specific purpose of creating a narrative to contradict things I’ve already seen. I enjoyed listening to Cliff do it too. (For a while) I like hearing peoples game plans and strategies and I’m glad Cliff didn’t stop after he was caught.  However, I don’t like to listen to Cliff as much anymore. Sure, he tells us his plans but he’s also working for Americas Favorite Player and that’s annoying. A lot of the stuff he says is geared towards us loving him and making him AFP. Tommy and Kat did the same thing.

  • They all joked about the nomination ceremony because they know it doesn’t matter who gets put otb. Beth and Jackson were the ones nominated. Throughout the day, Beth became more annoyed over throwing the hoh comp. She told Jackson she should’ve been the one making the noms and it should’ve been her hoh.
  • Cliff and Nicole had proposed the idea of Beth not having to throw the veto even though she’d already agreed to do it. (It was part of the deal to keep Beth over Tommy) They told her they didn’t think it was fair for her not to have the chance to save herself. They offered to let her out of the deal in exchange for Beth promising to evict Jackson if she won it. (This isn’t feeling bad because she can’t fight for her game, this is having someone play in order to use them to get what you want) Beth wanted some time to think about it.
  • Jackson and Beth agreed she’d never stick to the deal and wasn’t even planning on throwing it to begin with. They readied themselves to do some more acting and planned to convince Cliff and Nicole she was ok with it. They both agreed they’d almost been screwed over by them and didn’t owe them anything.
  • Beth talked to Nicole about needing to be there for herself and play her own game. She agreed to keep Cliff over Jackson.
  • Beth talked to Cliff and told him the same thing. She also talked about never intending to turn their backs on Nicole and Cliff and said she and Jackson only wanted to make decisions that would make their parents proud.

Beth did some good work here and she was pretty convincing. Of course, she’s dealing with people who want to be convinced and that makes it easier. She should still get the credit for finally acting like she wants to win and fighting to make it happen. From what I’ve heard, it sounds like Jackson did all the work on Thursday to get the vote to go her way so I’m  not giving her props for it just yet. Once we see how things played out on Thursday, I may have to change the way I see it. If she made it happen, good for her but so far, it sounds like this is another move Jackson should get the credit for. As for yesterday, she showed signs of the Beth we saw early in the game. This was way back when I said, I thought she, Jackson and Tommy had the best chances to win in my opinion. (Yes, she’s still Beth to me. It isn’t because I think I’m being funny, it isn’t to disrespect her and it really isn’t that serious. If she wins the game, I’ll probably be on here saying “holy shit, Beth won!”)

  • Jackson and Beth met up to go over what she said to Cliff and Nicole. She said she thinks she sold it and told them she didn’t  want to have to do it but at this point, she has to look out for her own game. They both became more and more annoyed over the way things were being presented to them. Jackson thought it was very cocky and arrogant for Cliff to “allow” Beth to play (veto) and have his “permission” to fight for it. He said Nicole and Cliff really thought they were just going to be handed two spots in the F2. He said they’ve already burned Beth and Jackson and he doesn’t feel bad about making a deal and not keeping it.
  • Beth continued to complain she made a huge mistake and shouldn’t have thrown the hoh. (She shouldn’t. I’m not sure why some people are saying the hoh doesn’t matter simply because you don’t choose who goes. Hell yes, it matters. It’s not as good as having the veto, which let’s you choose who leaves AND be safe but it does guarantee you a spot in the F3. How can that not matter? Regardless of who wins the veto, Nicole WILL be competing in the final hoh comp. None of the other 3 can say that yet)
  • They may have all been exhausted from the emotional turmoil of the day before because the evening was spent laying around on the sofas trying to stay awake or giving up and napping.
  • Jackson was still annoyed and told Beth he was going to win the veto and evict Cliff. Jackson said he wouldn’t even think about honoring a deal with Cliff after Cliff told him he was taking Nicole to the F2.
  • Beth started talking about Nicole and saying she was walking around the house all full of herself because she was safe from something they gave her. She said Nicole didnt have to earn it. Beth said she didn’t like the way Nicole preaches antibullying but says she was bullied into throwing the hoh comp. Jackson let her know she needed to take it down a notch and appeared annoyed over the comments.
  • Cliff and Nicole talked and are under the impression Beth will keep her deal with them. They discussed (again) how Cliff made a deal to keep Jackson and evict Beth if he wins veto but Nicole didn’t. Cliff said that’s the loophole they have if they want to get him out. (The day before, Cliff said he could tell Jackson he only promised to keep him if HE won it but if Nicole won it, he’d do what Nicole wanted)  Nicole asked Cliff if it was close, would he throw it to her so they could evict Jackson? Cliff wasn’t sure if he would or not. He said they could talk about things and see how they played out.  Cliff also said he wouldn’t mind throwing the comp to Beth so she could evict Jackson for them. They talked about having to fight it out and win the final hoh no matter which one of them stayed.
  • Nicole (alone) wasn’t  bothered by Cliff making the F3 deals with Jackson and Beth. She’s already there and wants him there too. She said she knows she has to win her way to the end anyway and she’s  fine with it. She said everyone gets there in different ways but they’re all deserving because they all made it to the F4. She hope’s the jury and the fans can see that. When she was with Cliff, she used Jordan winning as an example. She said Jordan was deserving even if she was carried there because she got people to carry her. (Nicole and I may have to disagree a little bit on this one. Yes, I agree if you got there, you did something right to get there and no ones win is undeserved. I’m also of the opinion there are better and more deserving winners than others. Some people play great games to win and others have won in spite of their best efforts to lose. I loved Jordan but I think she’s in the bottom half of winner rankings in BB. Actually, she’s really far down on the bottom half of my list too. There wasn’t anything about her game that impressed me. I just liked her)
  • Beth told Cliff once more, she is accepting she may have to get rid of Jackson and says she’s ok with it. She knows it’s a game and it’s just the way it is. Cliff said he wanted all the deals out in the open. Beth said how hard it was to throw the hoh and he said it proved she was good to her word. Nicole admitted being surprised when Beth followed through with it.  Beth said she thinks Tommy would’ve gone back on it but said she never would.
  •  Cliff and Nicole agreed if Nicole wins the veto, he’ll do what she wants with it even though he would have the sole vote. She said Beth would’ve won the hoh if she hadn’t thrown it and feels bad about it so she’d like her to be the one to go to the F3 with them. (That’s not the reason. Its because Nicole thinks she can beat Beth) Cliff reminded her he promised Jackson so if he won the veto, they’ll have to take him because it would be hard for him to break his word.
  • Nicole (alone) said again, she needs to win this veto so Cliff will do what she wants with his vote.
  • Cliff checked in with Jackson. He gave him the details of the new deal with Beth because he wants everything in the open. He said Bet iis allowed to fight for the veto but she had to agree to evict Jackson. Jackson said he understood and he wants her to do what’s best for her game.
  • Beth and Jackson are worried about the face comp and hope it’s going to be something physical.
  • Cliff (alone) said he feels good about his deals and believes Jackson and Beth will both keep their word. He’s feels confident he’s secured himself a spot in the F3. He said he’s a little worried about keeping Jackson. He compared it to Cody keeping Derrick. He wasn’t claiming to be Derrick, just for the record. He was only comparing keeping a strong player like Jackson if he won and got to choose. He wondered if it was a mistake. (The entire shit show of a day was the mistake)
  • Jackson still insisted on brushing his teeth in the hoh room. He really does think it belongs to him.
  • Nicole tried on Cliffs hat and boots, did some dancing and practiced her southern accent.

I have no idea what Cliff is thinking. I get it, he wants to secure a spot in the F3 but this wasn’t the way to do it. He hasn’t played an amazing game but he’s played an ok game. Considering his starting position, he’s actually played a good game and used what he had to work with but this is so sloppy. One of the reasons I liked Cliffs game was because I thought he made the safer move with Christie (regarding her power) in order to gain trust with people. (Ya, I wanted the other move too) That’s great currency to have in a house where people can’t be trusted. It worked and the rest of the game, he was able to accomplish things simply because people believed him. I also liked it because I thought (based on things he said to the cameras) he was going to cash in all the currency near the end of the game. Instead, he just plans to keep making deals and keeping his word. To me, this is like saving up money to bu a car. After all the time spent saving, you go out and buy a boat instead. Worse, you don’t live anywhere near water. I don’t  know if it’s arrogance, like Jackson said or if it’s just losing perspective as we near the end. Cliff isn’t a stupid person so I can’t understand why he thinks Jackson or Beth would keep a deal like this, especially after they let it be known all week, they almost turned on them and kept Tommy.

Beth made a mistake by not winning the veto. Yeah, yeah, yeah, everyone says the hoh doesn’t matter and I’ve already said, yes it does. It’s gets your ass into the F3 and that has value. It has more for her if the veto comp is mental because she’s the worst at the days. We all know why she kept her word too and it’s why she’s beating herself up over it. It’s one thing to make a move for game reasons and it simply not work out but that’s not what happened. Sure, she made the deal for game reasons but she kept her word because she spent days saying (where we could hear) how honorable she is, how much integrity she has and how she’s playing with morals. She felt like she had to put up or shut up. She had to prove she was a better person than Nicole. Nicole almost betrayed them but she never would and that’s what throwing the hoh was all about. It’s F4, so other than jury votes, what can happen from breaking the deal?

Nicole screwed up lately too. Cliff’s the biggest mouthpiece over what happened yesterday but she certainly played her part. I agree with her about it all coming down to the veto and she’s already in the F3. It doesn’t hurt her as much. She needs to be more worried about the F2. It sounds like she is but she could be in more trouble with the jury than she would’ve been. Originally, Nicole didn’t stand a chance because it looked like she was playing Cliffs game.  She won some comps, saved Cliff and started building her resume. Tommy vs Beth didn’t matter nearly as much as the way the jury may perceive the move. She was better to say nothing than to fight for Tommy and cave in the end. This would’ve  been seen as Nicole’s big move to split up the shomance and Tommy was impressed. (So was Cliff and he began to worry she’d give him competition in a F2) Now, Tommy heads to jury to explain that Nicole attempted a move but Jackson blocked it. Tommy leaving is Jacksons move now, not Nicole and Cliffs, even though they had the only two votes. Nicole also read Jackson very wrong. When he hinted at being ok with Beth leaving, he didn’t mean now. He meant at F4 and was only trying to secure himself a spot in the F3. Combine that with the fact it wasn’t even true, it was very naive on her part to think he meant it.

As far as Jackson goes, he’s doing what he needs to do. He’s never planned on letting Beth go and why should he? Even if they continued to fight, she’s at least a possibility to win a comp. She’s  never voting against him and he knows it. Why would he send her to jury mad at him when he can keep her there as someone who’ll take him to the F2?


I’m still at a loss as to what the hell happened yesterday and those are the only thoughts I have off the top of my head. I’m ready for this veto, that’s the only thing I know for sure! Sorry this was late today and have a great Saturday.



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  1. Robin

    Poor Mel! That was a lot of shit to shovel and we’re all still looking for the pony, but appreciate that big shovel of yours. Again, I’m impressed with your assessment of all the Blah, blah, blah… Charlie Browns Mom would Have been proud of you. Thanks again for all the hard work from you, Steve and NK. Love my BBJ!

  2. Helen

    Please,please let it be the same final veto comp as last year…..

  3. JennX

    Imma head out to the local Costco & Sam’s Clubs in the area to stock up in bulk on batteries. I think I will need to have plenty on hand so my bullshit detector doesn’t die on me between now and Thursday night! Anyone else need some?

    I wish this had the element from Hunger Games where the viewers could send in gifts to the players!
    I’d send Nicole some body glitter and sparkle to recharge her amazing inner light
    I’d send Beth some makeup remover
    I’d send Sir Snax-A-Lot some truth serum
    And I’d send Cliff a freakin’ clue!

    Then for the entire house I’d send a food handling manual. And probably some hand soap

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    Cliff is really irritating me w/ this whole integrity thing. We get it, you say what you mean & mean what you say. That’s a great quality to have but not in F4 of BB.

    Cliff’s integrity, guilt & inability to keep his mouth shut may very well cost him in the end. Not that JJ or Beth would take him to F3 but it would prevent him from taking JJ to F3.

    As far as Nicole, when JJ went to her & told her he would take her to F2 but not to tell Cliff, she should have gone to Cliff & told him. Why? B/c Cliff would tell her about his F2 deal w/ JJ & maybe just maybe Cliff would have the balls to not honor his F3 deal w/ JJ & evict him should he or Nicole win POV.

  5. Nancy

    Thank you Mel for making sense outta nonsense…

    New avatar is self explanatory
    Cut him loose nicole..

  6. Mary

    Cliff is a horse with blinders on, he has tunnel vision and not thinking big picture. Makes me wonder, is he thinking about last year when Tyler voted out Angelia. He did that because he had a final 2 with Kaycee.This is a whole different ball game.

  7. JennX

    I was really really hoping that Beth would get a penalty vote for excessive napping yesterday. That would have flipped some tables in the house.

    Because then it wouldn’t matter as much who won the veto – it would have introduced the possibility of a tie vote that Nicole would have to break. Unless Beth won the veto and saved herself of course.

  8. Tiare

    Goooo Jackson. Win the veto and send Cliff packing!!!

  9. Helen

    Anyone know how well Jackson knows the days and what happened? I know Holly isn’t very good at them but not sure about Jackson?

  10. Robin

    What was last years veto comp?

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  12. Helen

    I must apologize…the veto comp I am hoping for today was played in BB 18. Not 20


  13. mustangsally

    OMG…Just win POV Nicole!

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    I might have to alter my plan for next season to include two extra powerful Pikachus to zap production each time you can tell their meddling

  15. Patricia

    Thanks Mel great recap. Im totally lost what have i missed can someone tell me what happened between all of them. I keep reading Nichole had a part in some kind of arguing with cliff n jolly. Im still praying that nichole has been throwing all comps til now n she will win the veto today. Go nichole. Kick jacka$$ to the curb please.

    • Mel

      Maybe you’re referring to Thursdays blow up. No ones argued since Tommy left. There was a big blow up over keeping Tommy or Beth. I dont think Nicole has ever thrown a comp but on the positive, she’s also been winning them lately.

      • KelBel

        Don’t kill the messenger, because I’m 100% #teamnicole, but as other posters have pointed out, Nicole has been winning comps because others have thrown the them to her. Although she did win last week’s POV herself fair and square and way ahead of the others.

  16. Helen

    Saw this on Jokers site…interesting seeing Kat and Sis….seeing where Kat is sitting and where Sis is…


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    Here is a taste of tonight’s BBAD playlist and this is a Stevie Nick’s song that was recorded in 2014 and has Dave Grohl doing the drums


  18. Joy

    I didn’t think that Beth could get any more annoying, once again she has proven me wrong. Thanks for the recap, Mel.

  19. Helen

    Holly has to know sitting next to Jackson in F2 she comes in 2nd …
    Is she willing to give up a chance at 500,000 to Jackson?

    • KelBel

      As much as I DON’T want to see them in the F2, it would be interesting to hear their pitches against each other.

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      That’s what I’m saying! This isn’t like a Jeff and Jordan or Rachel and Brendon showmance where they know no matter who wins they both win. Holly and Jackson are not going to make it after the show. I give Jackson 48 hours before he has some 20-something year-old in his bed. Holly would never benefit from him winning. She’s being so naive.

  20. Mary

    Would Cliff vote out Sharon to get to F3? possibly F2 That is what he’s expecting J/H to do for him.

    • JennX

      The difference is, Cliff would – with the knowledge that he would returning home to her, to a loving & committed relationship and hey could share the prize together.

      Holly may be hoping beyond hope that her and Jackson will be together for a while or forever (until he gets a call from The Challenge!) and will benefit if he wins, even if it’s indirectly because it’s against the rules to share the money.

      Jackson has zero intention of being with Holly after the finale. And if he does, Mama is gonna squelch that thought out of his head as soon as the BB door hits his ass on the way out. I think he wants to bring her because she will be easy to beat in the end (and also provides him an immediate stress relief in the shower when things get crazy)

  21. JennX

    On BBAD last night I found it amusing when going to commercial break they would show a few seconds of a pre-show interview with Tommy saying he was a BB fan, he is obsessed with it and this is a dream come true! Then Orwell would drop in and tell him to wake up, dreams over! LOL

  22. AIO_7

    “Cliff also said he wouldn’t mind throwing the comp to Beth so she could evict Jackson for them.”

    Are you kidding me?

    Poor Hank Hill Hogg Cliff.

    • Helen

      He’s become delusional…

    • Mary

      Earlier in the season Holly mentioned about just skimping by and needed the money. Last night in the HOH room talking to Cliff and Nicole she trying to sell the idea she was going to vote out Jackson. She stated they will be friends always, not sure how the relationship would go after the show, though they are going to go on a trip every year. After the show they plan on going to Bora Bora. To me that seems like a pretty expensive trip. That should have sent some alarm bells going off.

    • Helen

      Poor Nicole is playing final veto against Jackson and Holly…Cliff will throw it if he can…
      So it’s all up to Nicole…..
      Jackson and Holly want nothing more than for one of them to win veto to send Cliff out the door

    • KelBel

      AIO and Helen…. you both read my mind… I had the same quote copied and ready to comment on…and my comment was what Helen said – Cliff has lost his damn mind.

      • Helen

        So has Nicole…

        Nicole says she hopes Holly wins veto as good karma for throwing the HOH. She says she wouldn’t feel as bad about Michie leaving because he won 10K.

      • KelBel

        oh good grief. they’re so happy to be at F4, but they sure don’t sound like they even want to win! they honestly think Botax will vote out her stool buddy?!?

  23. Mary

    Is Nicole going to play the veto comp in her HOH robe?

  24. ShoeLover

    Thanks mel!!! As always love the recap!!!

    Man is it HOT today!! Spent my early morning and early afternoon at a car show showing our car!! Loved on all of the adorable adoptable puppies!!! Snacked on as much street tacos and tablitas my tummy could hold!! Next it on to the Rangers baseball tonight!!!

    Wanted to come in say HI Y’ALL and see if the VETO results were in.. Nope, not yet!! I am a Nicole fan and disappointed in Cliff because these weird deals are just, weird. Of course do what you can to get the prize, but, HUH??? Throw the VETO to Holly??? No no no no no no!!! Gun for the VETO and fight!! That’s what I would be doing!!

    Anyways. Enjoy your weekend BBJ family!!! ♡♡♡♡♡

  25. JennX

    Ugh! Beth is still stuck on stoopid! She swears that she totally would have won the last HOH and regrets throwing it. Yet in almost the same breath she is ‘literally’ on her death bed – can’t breathe, aches, lymph nodes, weakness, etc.
    So are you sick or are you Wonder Woman?
    PS Nicole won the HoH fair n square. She outsmarted Beth by convincing her to drop. It may not be endurance, but it’s still strategy.

    • AIO_7

      “It may not be endurance, but it’s still strategy.”

      Like the Baby Lady said … “A win is a win.”

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      FAH thinks she will get sympathy from the world by that sick routine but all it’s doing is making people hate her even more

    • Nancy

      Have I mentioned taking the forever complaining beth to a children’s cancer ward, and let her complain to them???!!!!
      OVER IT!!!!


    • danmtruth

      What is Holly=beth excuse for the BB Comics POV disaster where she needed to do well Oh yeh the longest time bye far

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        Probably that production didn’t give her enough time to put on even more makeup

      • Nancy

        Oh, her makeup might have been weighing her down..just couldn’t move fast..

      • JennX

        Bennett… she took the first 37 minutes to reapply her makeup then smoked the actual comp in under 2 min. But it’s ok because it’s not like she was gonna be put on the block anyway! I mean it’s her Fauxmance’s HOH!

        Beth inner monologue “What do you mean Nicole is gonna use the veto? She is the DEVIL!! She’s bullying me straight into the block! Shame Shame Shame!”

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        Jennx that isn’t enough time for FAH’s she probably thinks that production should treat her like royalty and do anything that she says

      • JennX

        Oh my gosh! In response to DrunkBeth’s bitching about her microphone I would totally pay to see this

        BB: Holly please go to the DR
        Beth: ok let me just spackle on some makeup
        BB: Holly, please fuck off!
        Beth: OMG BB, you’re a fuckin asshole!

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      Exactly! It’s annoying too that she keeps talking about it. We all make decisions that may or may not have the outcome we desire over time. But make it and move on without regrets. Get over it and play the game! Sidebar: if Nicole wins I think we should all have a celebratory Vegas trip instead of the other houseguests!

    • mm22

      **So are you sick or are you Wonder Woman?**
      Jenn that’s so funny! Hard to believe anything
      hollybeth says she’s fake she’s a liar and she’s a mean

  26. Helen

    Looks like it’s gonna be another 230 or 3 pm veto again today…

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  28. ChiKelz

    Good afternoon my fellow Junkies! I just wanted to take a moment to say HELLO!! This is my first time writing this season. I have jumped on to read comments periodically, but I was not into this season as previous years. First, the whole DTV not having CBS until 2 weeks ago was annoying. I know and did watch a few episodes on CBS.com but DTV as a whole is annoying.

    I have been extremely busy too! The Monday after Thanksgiving my mother was hospitalized for kidney failure. No, she is not a diabetic which is why it was unnerving. Turns out she has stage 4 Multiple Myeloma (Cancer of the Bone Marrow) and it attacks the kidneys aka renal system. Robin Roberts on Good Morning America had it too! The problem with my mother is she was told 3 years prior and kept it to herself and did not follow up as instructed. Due to the kidneys shutting down a bone marrow transplant is out of the question.

    So, I’m the caretaker and I just haven’t had the time and energy to commit to BB as I have in previous years. Dialysis 3 times a week, chemo once a week, and regular doctor appointments mixed in and still working…exhaustion is an understatement!! I hope you all are doing well and I hope to have more time available next season.

    Ciao for now!

  29. Helen

    Well…animals…guess we will know Thursdays outcome in about 2 1/2 hours…
    Maybe more..depending on what it is…
    Jackson wins..bye cliff
    Holly wins..bye Cliff
    Nicole wins..noms stay the same and cliff decides
    Cliff wins noms stay the same and cliff decides
    He will probably vote Holly out and keep his agreement with Jackson since Jackson promised him a F2

  30. danmtruth

    Cliff from jockers just now :
    Cliff says “screw you” if people don’t like the decisions he makes and its about him and how he balances his values. Cliff: “If you want to judge judge way. BUT its my decisions and I’ll own them. Smart decisions, bad decisions and everything in between
    I’ll own then and move forward. That’s all I can do.”
    No Cliff you can be smart What is noble about keeping your word to someone that is lieing to you There is nothing noble in allowing a cheater to profit from fooling a righteous man

    • Colby

      I listened to that whole talk and also read it on Jokers.
      While he didn’t make it clear what he intends to do, he did say that Nicole deserves a chance (which I didn’t see included on Jokers), so I think maybe he will evict JJ.
      Or maybe I just am hoping that is what he meant.

  31. hogwild

    Feeds down might be doing veto.

  32. MamaBear

    Veto Time! Go Nicole Go! I’ll take Cliff as the winner but I prefer little Nugget! And FAH? She needs to skip the comp, crawl to the red self evict button and immediately be transported to the nearest Trauma Center! She needs to witness real folks suffering from real illnesses/injuries! Damn that girl is going to make my head explode! And Jackson? He won’t be competing either! Why? Cause I’m going to tie him to a chair, duct tape his loud mouth as I proceed to smash watermelons in his face while telling him what I really think about him and his Mama!!! Right now I’m going to manifest the win for Nicole!! Join me?

  33. Annabelle

    My hope is Nicole wins veto and tells Cliff she wants a pinky promise and hand shake that he will vote out Jackson or she will take Beth down and put him up. Or if he is SO certain that Beth will stick to her word ask her to put him up so he doesn’t have to break his word to Jackson. Boy won’t he be shocked. My “dream” outcome that will NEVER happen is Beth win veto and send Jackson out telling him “you said play my own game do what’s best” Not that I like Beth I don’t but watching his reaction would be funny.

  34. mm22

    Just checking in-no veto comp yet?

  35. Tiare

    Jsckson for the veto win. #goJackson I am a fan of game play

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    Cliff has seriously lost his mind. Being a fan, he has no excuse! He knows better! It’s unbelievable.

  37. Tiare

    Man, I want to be on this show so bad! I know I have to lose weight first and even if I did. I wouldn’t get picked because I’m 49 and not looking for fame, married and don’t want a showmance, and don’t want or need an agent. I just wish they would pick regular folks like me.

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      Honestly, I’d rather see the overweight 49 years old married run of the mill person who actually plays the game than some wannabe famous actor/model whio’s only in it for exposure.

      & So what if you can’t win the physical comps. There’s still memory & skill comps to win + social game & BB strategy.

  38. JennX

    I know it’s a total long shot, but the fan base needs to collectively convince CBS to give David a special cash prize on finale night. For the sole reason of giving us the gift of “Beth”.

    I wish I knew how he feels about being the spark that set the Bethmania ablaze!

  39. TamiJane Shepard

    Feeds down for veto comp as of an hour ago

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    WhereisPablo (545 comments)

    I have a statement and a serious question. Statement: TT is gone! It felt like 6 months of waiting and I wanted to slap his shoes off of the stool/ chair during the aftershow but somehow knew he couldn’t just sit there like a normal person and would have to fold himself up.
    Question: Why is everyone calling JJ a liar right now when C/N shook hands weeks ago on a final 4, and caused havoc by telling JJ and Beth that they could be breaking their word? Did something else happen that I have missed?

    • Joy

      yeah, home alone Tommy just couldn’t help with the hands to the damn cheeks pose over and over again.

    • KelBel

      Congrats, MIA Pablo on the eviction of TT…you have been waiting a long time for that!

      The drama leading up to TT’s eviction on Thursday is where JJ told his major lie. There was a glimpse of it on Thursdays show and Julie said more will be shown on Sunday’s episode. That will be the edited version…feeds were down all day so the faithful followers who pay for those 24/7 feeds will be seeing the CBS version for the first time too.

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        WhereisPablo (545 comments)

        Thanks Kel 🙂 I saw that little clip and impartially, it looks bad, but I’ll wait to see the whole thing first, cuz that little bit they showed, TT was screaming way louder than JJ. (Partially, it tickled me because it was TT). So people aren’t upset because JJ is lying to Cliff about the as we type veto? It’s about the save Beth lie about TT?

      • KelBel

        I don’t blame TT for yelling louder, everything JJ was saying was untrue… can only speak for myself, that’s what I’m most upset about. For me it’s one thing to make a deal and go back on it – that’s expected in the game. It’s another thing to make up total lies in attempt to ruin another person’s credibility. Regardless, TT went home 😉

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        WhereisPablo (545 comments)

        Got it Kel, thanks! 🙂

  41. danmtruth

    We keep talking about what a bad game move it would be for Cliff to keep jackson if he had a choice Than it dawned on me This season has been one of one bad game move after another With very little consequences There for a bad game move of keeping jackson Over Holly This year will mean nothing Nothing bad would come of it As someone will make an even dumber move

    • TeeJ

      Totally agree Dan. The sheer volume of bad game moves this year is amazing. Not sure we have enough time left for someone to make a worse. Though Watching Cliff win the veto and saving Jackasson would at least be the icing on cake of BB Blunders.

  42. MamaBear

    This BB is turning into a good vs. evil season. Honestly, one speaks volumes about oneself and their beliefs / morals based on who they want to win this game. And yes, it is a game. But just the mere factual reality that good people have ended up in the final 4 with the deplorable tells me that good can prevail against people of highly questionable character, morals and ethics.

  43. Robin

    Anyone see Tam in last couple of days?

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    POV results coming soon & I can’t wait to see who won so we know if Cliff or JJ is going home this week.

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    The Jurors got to see their bb comics today and a few of them don’t like their comic


  46. Robin

    I’m hearing JJ wins

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