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Big Brother 21 – Wednesday Night Updates

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Here we are once again with another Wednesday with a ton of game talk to make up for the complete lack of any throughout the week.

Holly has been making her rounds tonight trying to campaign and she’s pretty terrible at it. Listening to it was absolutely painful as she decided to go with the pity party route rather than anything of substance. To make matters worse, she was clearly lying so how can you take her seriously?

Her main pitch to Cliff and Nicole has been that:

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a: They made a promise and they should keep it – Ok, I guess I can see this. For Cliff, his game has been about morality and for them to break their final 4 word is not a good look on him. Cliff tried to pass it off as him protecting Nicole more than himself but that wasn’t very convincing. Basically, Cliff’s argument is that he can probably get to the final 3 with Jackson and Holly but he is working with Nicole and Nicole (for obvious reasons) wouldn’t like that. He doesn’t want to leave her hanging so he is going to vote with her regardless of how she votes to prevent a tie. To me, it sounded like he was just passing blame to Nicole rather than owning up to the flip but maybe Holly didn’t see that

b: Holly is a weak player and easier to beat – One of the competitions that Holly actually did win was the vine endurance comp. Her argument is that there likely won’t be any more comps like that so clearly she can’t win anything else. What? That’s what she’s going with? First, winning an endurance comp is hard. Don’t act like it was a pure lock comp like some of the others. Second, you came in second to Jackson during the other endurance comp (slip and slide). Third, round 1 of the final HoH will likely be an endurance comp so you most certainly will have a comp suited to you moving forward.  That argument is complete bull and anyone can see through that. Holly knows she is a fairly strong competitor.

c: She is happy to make final 4 – This is yet another pitch that she made. Evict her 4th rather than 5th. It’s absolutely a nightmare scenario that she be sent home in 5th place but is perfectly happy with finishing 4th. Bullllllshit. I get that she doesn’t want to be evicted on Jackson’s HoH but that’s the way the game goes. Jackson had zero control over it because there are only 5 people. People aren’t going to look at her and think ‘oh man, Jackson really played her’. He didn’t. It was a numbers game where Jackson was 100% powerless once he lost the veto comp. If anyone falls for that mumbo jumbo, they deserve to lose.

Look, I’ve said all along that Holly is a more guaranteed win if you’re sitting next to her in the final 2 and keeping her is not as crazy as it appears, but I also know that Jackson is always a huge favorite to win any veto comp and if he wins, there is 100% chance two of the final spots are immediately full so long as Holly is in the house. There is no room for a Holly, Jackson, Cliff, and Nicole final 3. Cliff is trying his hardest to get Nicole to the final 3 with him and the best odds are with Tommy in the house. There is a strong chance that Jackson takes Cliff/Nicole to the final 3 if Holly is gone. There is no chance if she is there. Yes, Tommy is a huge favorite to win it all if he’s in the final 2 but that won’t matter to Cliff or Nicole if Jackson and Holly are sitting in those seats.

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As Cliff just pointed out to Nicole, if they evict Tommy, he is virtually guaranteed #3. Possibly better, likely not. If they evict Holly, he can finish 4th, but he can also make the final 2 that path via a few scenarios.

I’ve debated on that back and forth all week but what Cliff said succinctly sums up the entire argument and makes me think getting rid of Holly is 100% the right move for him and Nicole here. It’ll suck if either are sitting next to Tommy in the final 2 but it’ll suck worse if Nicole and Cliff are voted out 4th and 3rd. They have 0 chance to win if they’re not in the final 2. Obviously Cliff would prefer to be there, but I genuinely believe that he’d be nearly as happy if Nicole were to make it and even win if he couldn’t. Both are really good people and in a season full of shit, it’s nice that the two nicest people in the house ended up rising to the top.

Unless something changes between now and tomorrow, Holly is out of the house in less than 24h. Updates below if any happen

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  1. danmtruth

    As holly talks about how devestated she would be to be BACDOOED during JJ HOH how she me never recover i just feel like
    https://youtu.be/mrNpzSqtE4E

  2. Nancy

    New avatar…its all about how moral and upstanding the king and queen are..

  3. hogwild

    I was on the Tommy should go train because of his alliance allies in the jury but listening to Cliff and Nicole talk tonight it does seem like taking Holly out makes their chances of getting to the F2 a little better. Plus I really don’t think Jackson or Tommy want to be sitting next to each other at F2 so if things fall right for Cliff and Nicole at least one of them maybe both will be F2. I will say this for them they are not going to be standing at the plate taking a third strike if they go down they are going down swinging.

    • KLew

      I think you hit the nail on the head – neither Tommy nor Jackson will want to take the other to F2. So if Cliff or Nicole is still in the House, they will make it to the finale. Therefore, getting rid of Holly is in Nicole’s and Cliff’s best interest.

  4. hogwild

    I’m gonna repost this here because I like this one it’s not up there with the cow chewing one but still pretty fitting after tonights conversations.
    https://i.ibb.co/2jvxcGF/giphy.gif

  5. Tam

    Girl better get to packing…..Tommy already knocked out most of his. I would think that she would realize she just told JJ that the writing is on the wall, so get to it. Didn’t he tell her to start slamming drawers while she packed? Not sure what that was about. Passive aggressive and the thundering was drowning them out.

    • Nancy

      Yeah, slam drawers..be passive aggressive that’ll make nicole change her mind..now they’ve resorted back to children..why not stomp your dirty feet while you’re at it

      • Tam

        Right, Nancy…Give it time, just give it time….She was telling him not to go down there like that while he was storming bull storming to the rr in there. Just stupid….They make it so easy to make fun of them…….

  6. Tam

    Nicole looks like she is enjoying annoying JJ during chess. He hasn’t said much during the whole game. She is just being herself. Too funny……

  7. NKogNeeTow

    BBAD: Campaign Potato Casserole and Banana Bread anyone?

    Kitchen:

    TT and Ain’t-To-Proud-To-Beg-And-Cry-Holly are discussing whether they will get some of their costumes back from BB to take with them. ATPTNACH checks on her milk ladened Potato casserole that she put in the oven about 8 hours ago. *Not really 8 but it feels like it.*

    Tree House:

    Nicole and JJ are playing Chess, not Checkers.

    Kitchen:

    ATPTBACH is setting the table. The dirty broccoli is done and on the stove waiting.

    Tree House:

    The game still going on. Looks like JJ is winning. *Maybe both in the Chess game and getting rid of the old ball and chain.*

    Kitchen:

    FAH is seasoning the casserole with a ton of salt. Cliff is now out of hiding in the bathroom. *FAH wore him out with her “campaign”.*

    Tree House:

    Nicole has been called to the DR. She’s put JJ in check twice and tells BB she’s coming but lingers to finish the game. She asks BB to wait 2 seconds, says she’s sorry then puts JJ in check again. He puts her in check and takes one of her pieces. *Full disclosure, I know nothing about Chess. Someone tried to teach me once then got so frustrated at me not being able to remember the pieces and how they move, he vowed never to play me again.*

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  8. Robin

    I have to say that I really have enjoyed the Way that Nicole plays this game. In many of the HOH reigns, they have seemed to get side tracked from their targets. Sometimes that is the thing to do, you have to think on your feet but mostly it’s been because they are manipulated by other players.

    Nicole seems to use the power she has acquired first, from being a swing vote, to her current veto in a well thought out process. She is very caring, but makes decisions based on game knowledge. As much as she may be disappointed when she watches the show, I am convinced this experience has been a tremendous opportunity in growth and maturity. I’m certain that her family, friends and community are proud of her.

  9. Mary

    Has anyone else noticed that Jackson never eats what other people cook, including Holly. Well except that one omelette she made, and I don’t even think he ate all of that.

  10. Tam

    I’m sorry, but JJ is just being a pissy asshole right now. Cliff is being genuine and talking to everyone. They are trying to have a nice meal and moment and he has to makes a rude snide remark about chicken and storms off and is slamming everything. What an asshole. Temper tantrum. He needs to be put in time out. I call it. He is going on one of his rants while Cliff is making valid points and it just makes JJ seem even the more like a brat not getting his way. Cliff is right, today is not the day for that sort of attitude because HB is going home. GO CLIFF!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  12. NKogNeeTow

    BACK

    Kitchen:

    Cliff is talking to FAH, nd TT. FAH is crying so his news must not be good. TT looks a little stunned. Cliff is saying on a logical level he gets it and knows they do and it’s killing him. He says he didn’t count on this when he came to the game. He says he thought it would be like a board game but they all have so much invested at this point it’s not just a game anymore. He apologizes for putting a damper on dinner. FAH and TT says it’s alright. Cliff takes off his glasses and looks like he’s crying a bit too.

    He says he’s been on big jobs but never been on one where it lasted 85 days and so much put into it and was so limited and restricted. He says it’s getting to him and he doesn’t know if it’s because it’s been so long or he’s just mentally worn out. JJ is in the corner killing bugs. TT tells he loves them all so much and it’s never going to change, then wipes a tear from his eye.

    Cliff says playing this game with strangers would be easy but since they have become friends it’s hard. FAH says playing the game with people you like is hard so play it with people you hate. Cliff says “where’s David”. FAH and TT laugh. JJ comes back from the SR with steak and chicken. They are already eating pototo casserole and broccoli. Cliff says that’s fine. He tells her it’s good.

    FAH says they all need some nourishment and she had only a bite of Nicole’s banana today and that’s it. Cliff says he’d like to see test of their stress levels and their physical health. ATPTBACH says she’s generally concerned about her body right now. She says she literally haven’t been able to sleep. *THURSDAY, THURSDAY, THURSDAY*

    Cliff tells them there are people all over the world making life changing decisions. TT says they sit there crying over going out 5th place. Cliff says of the JH, there are 11 people who would give to be where they are right now. Cliff apologizes and says he’s just in a venting mood right now and need to get some things off of his chest. FAH says she feels very lucky that these are their problems and life could be a lot tougher and a lot worse. Cliff says if he was out of the house he would be at a park watching dogs and kids playing. TT says they are almost there. TT tells FAH that the casserole is amazing and she has to do a cookbook.

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  13. danmtruth

    Jackson has been grinding the pepper for the last 2-1/2 min solid He ground enough pepper for 30 steaks It takes me 2 tope 3 grinds of pepper per dide What the hell is he doing And he has started up again

    • Tam

      He is angry and taking it out on the grinder…

    • Annabelle

      Since he is from east Tennessee I know when I was in school and my son also the kids that didn’t like having anyone trying to share their food peppered the hell out of everything they ate. This was mostly the guys cause girls tend to do the food stealing. My son will give you his last dollar or shirt off his back but if he is hungry he will stab you with a fork over his food and I bet jackson is that way too. Lol

      • Tam

        JJ would have hell of time down here. We are used to hot, pepper, and hunger so we learn to share from the womb. He would find his meat gone before he could blink an eye. He would learn to share real quick. Never underestimate anything or anyone around here. Just mad about his attitude at dinner. No sense in all that.

  14. Annabelle

    Wow Cliff awesome point of view. I think Tommy REALLY got it. I dont think she did.

  15. NKogNeeTow

    BACK

    Kitchen:

    JJ is now at the table eating. FAH says she wanted to make some really yummy chicken but they didn’t have any. TT says something about the food they didn’t get. FAH tells him it could be strategy. Cliff says it’s not like she askd for filet mignon (sp). FAH says the have moldy avacados but plenty of potatoes. Nicole is back from the DR and eating. They aren’t talking to much. Cliff ask aren’t they the happy family.

    TT asks if fhey want to do the Gratitude Circle. They say to wait until the morning. Cliffs says he guesses this is his family videos. JJ says when they do see them they will that much sweeter. Cliff says he can’t wait. JJ say they only have a week and some change left in the house. *This is a very somber dinner. Kind of like if you tried to keep it a secret and Thumby found out and showed up anyway.*

    They talk about how cold it is in the house and how they are either cold or hot. Nicole says her fingers are frozen. Hearing this, now FAH had to take Tylenol because her jaw keeps clinching up *well, maybe if you didn’t use it so much in the shower…jus sayin* and she wakes up drenched in sweat. TT says they are almost there and he offers to cut Cliff’s hair and ask Nicole to cut his. He offers to cut JJ’s. TT says tomorrow will be fun and he’ll give haircuts. Cliff said when he was in high school he sheared sheep. TT says it’s funny that they are expected to cut their own hair and stuff. JJ says figure it out.

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    • Nancy

      Menopause HollyBeth..waking up in sweat..
      Welcome to the club.

      No. No and No…NO GRATITUDE CIRCLE..
      I gotta get sleep, I’ll have a lot of make up to load in the van tomorrow night..
      Peace, y’all

    • Tam

      Baahhahaa, lmao…..JJ was bitching about that yesterday something he rarely has gotten or something along the lines. She was complaining about it earlier because she was so stressed while campaigning and clenching her jaw. I think your description is more accurate, though….Hilarious….

    • ShoeLover

      LOLOL!!! I am.pretty late to BBAD!! I promised Noah we would watch a couple of Mad Men episodes. Your Thumby comment, NK!! Cute!!! A couple of days ago someone made a lengthy statement about why they give thumbs down. All the odd reasons were odd. Anyhoos, I felt the connection and wondered if they were our ORIGINAL THUMBY!!! Just putting it out there!!! I love you Thumby and respect you. Just please, please remember we are a BBJ Family that has been going strong on all topics !! Big Brother is always the subject and top topic, but we do love to share our lives and say hello, Hi, listen to music, send well wishes, say goodbye, say goodnight and always always want to make sure our Thumby family is welcome as well. I really don’t care if I get a thumbs up or a thumbs down, I just like to talk about Big Brother and every day life.!!! Hugs and kisses to all of the Thumbys out there!!

      Okay said my peace and share of the oddly placed thumby thumbs

      • ShoeLover

        For me, they are coming back from commercial!! I wish I knew how to share a picture of their September 11th memorial in the living room!! It still warms my heart!!!

      • Tam

        Shoes, you are just precious and agree……We are BBJ family!!!!!! Families don’t always get along, but nonetheless we love, mingle and have those awkward family moments or reunions……

      • ShoeLover

        Yes Ma’am Miss Tam!!!
        I have been following for YEARS and proud to be one of the small originals!! Back then you didn’t have to create an account!! I know for sure of mel, mello one and NK, then danmtruth, g8torgirl( I know I did it wrong) Ann, Helen, Jannie, and Jane were some good ole family faves. They were all before me. I remember my newbie moment!! I thank Steveand his wonderful bride pretty much daily!! To me we are all nerds wanting to share our love for Bog Brother.

        Okay, maybe the alcohol is kicking in ( just kidding ) hahaha!! Gnight BBJ Family and all the cute self minded thumbys!!!!

        Much Love,

        Daina (ShoeLover)

  16. Robin

    You think that JJ is really that angry, or making sure to keep Holly’s vote?

    • Tam

      Both!!!!! Not having his quality cut of steaks and now his side piece is leaving is probably getting to him. And he wants to play it up so that he has her pulling for him in the jury house……A bird in the hand and bush for him…..

      • Robin

        OMG Tam, too funny….

      • Annabelle

        I agree Tam lil colum A lil colum B. I said earlier that could you imagine how she would be if he said Dont take it personal Hol it’s a game and if I were Nicole that’s what I’d do…she would probably pull her extensions right out repeatedly saying but like…like I I like…

      • Tam

        Annabelle, she better not. I have had enough of that. Listening to her today thinking she was short circuiting and needing a reboot. Then her snapping those things in a few times. I thought she had the extensions that are adhered with kerotin in. Didn’t realize that she was pop lockin. I just like, like, like can’t with her anymore….

    • NKogNeeTow

      I think it’s more the later of the two.

  17. NKogNeeTow

    BACK

    The camera lingers on the “We Remember” message while you can hear the HG in the kitchen talking in the background. Then, silence.

    Kitchen:

    FAH says her skin is so itchy. *THURSDAY, THURSDAY, THURSDAY* TT says he has a cream for that but tells her not to take it. TT and Nicole says they will do the dishes. Cliff thanks FAH for the casserole. JJ does something by the stove and makes a joke that a BB HG burns down the house in order to escalate Finale night. They laugh. TT gets a knife to cut the banana bread. Cliff sits at the table in deep thought.

    FAH whispers something to JJ then walks off. He ask her what she said. She says she’s going to pack and hope she can get some big trash bags to put the rest of her stuff in. She leaves. Cliff asks TT how many bananas did he use to make the bread. TT says 4.

    Outer Bedroom:

    Ain’t-To-Proud-To-Beg-And-Cry-Holly is double bagging some white plastic trash bags for her packing.

    Kitchen:

    Nicole says her space buns (hairdo) are growing on her. TT tells her they look cute.

    Outer Bedroom:

    ATPTBACH is packing her things from the dressers and putting them into a bag. *She’ll need an extra 2 just for all that makeup.*

    Kitchen:

    TT tells Nicole that he’ll take over washing dishes if she wants him to. She says she’s fine. Production ask them to clean the mirror. TT does.

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  18. NKogNeeTow

    BACK

    Kitchen:

    TT is asking Nicole about taking over the dishes again. This time she says she might take him up on it. He say it will give him something to do.

    Outer Bedroom:

    JJ is hugging FAH so tight that you can hear their heartbeats through their mics. *Don’t care. Romeo and Juliet will get no sympathy from me.* He tells her he will talk to them again later. Nicole walks through and says ” I love you guys so much.* They don’t respond. He leaves and FAH continues to go through the dresser drawers. JJ goes upstairs and runs into Nicole. She tells him she was going to take a shower but if he wants her to, she can do it downstairs. He tells her it’s alright and he was just up there looking for his hat.

    Outer Bedroom:

    FAH is still going through drawers and putting things in a bag.

    Kitchen:

    TT is washing dishes.

    Outer Bedroom:

    FAH is sniffing while going through clothes and putting them in the bag.

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  19. Robin

    For god sake Holly, your going to a pool house to hang out for a week. Your have your own cooks, pool, private rooms booze, movies to watch and books to read. It’s not prison camp!

  20. BBGurl

    I guess the old saying about power going to people’s head, is true. Nicole wins twice and has become quite the little snarky bitch. Been reading a lot of BB Twitter stuff and am just disgusted with her and Cliff’s behavior the past couple of days. I have always thought Cliff was a dumbass hillbilly redneck, so I’m not surprised where he is concerned but Nicole’s behavior has shocked me. I can only hope and pray that Jackson beats both their asses and wins BB 20. Hell, I’ll be ok if Tommy wins, as long as it isn’t those 2, lying, backstabbing POS. Now please control yourselves while you rush to thumbs down my post. LMAO

    • Annabelle

      What behaviors are you talking about on each?

      • BBGurl

        They are liars. They are backstabbers They are ungrateful assholes. The only reason they are still left in the game is because other people carried them there. Mainly, Jackson and Holly. Neither of them have done anything game wise to deserve to win. They try to come off as morally superior to everyone else when they are no better than the rest of the cast members. Jackson has played his ass off in this game, and it is a game, not a popularity contest. He certainly deserves to win over the snarky bitch and redneck hillbilly.

    • Annabelle

      Also Sherrilea I’m curious about your comment regarding Cliff… I am what I gladly call redneck. I feel that some are mad that Nicole is playing the game. Jackson and Holly did worse to Sis. Jax made a big deal telling Christy (cue cow gif) she was his target then Beth talked him in to getting sis out.

      • BBGurl

        when Analease got evicted she did not have a F4 deal with Jackson and Holly. She had not, week after week, kept Jackson and Holly safe. So, no, it’s nothing like this. I’m not sure what you’re curious about. And if you gladly refer to yourself as a redneck, well, umm… congratulations? As someone who was born and raised in the deep south, I know a redneck, hillbilly when I see/hear one. And Cliff is most definitely one. IMHO. And I’m sure you care about my opinion about as much as I care about yours. 🙂 I can overlook a lot but liars really disgust me.

    • danmtruth

      Not sure what they have done to warrant this blind anger I guess watching and lustening is a skill your lacking I fsil to see the behavior you are talking about have a nice night and as they say Bless your heart

    • NKogNeeTow

      Sherrilea, I was the first thumbs down you got. Nothing personal, your opinion is your own, I just so happen not to agree with it. If I understood your comment correctly, you think they are 2 lying, backstabbing, POS because they aren’t living up to their bargin with FAH and JJ. Is that opposed to JJ and Holly telling Kat she was safe then voting her out, then telling Sis she wasn’t going anywhere then voting her out? I guess I’m trying to figure out which 2 lying, backstabbing, pieces of shit you’re referring to.

      • BBGurl

        I don’t care that you thumbed down my post. I expected it, quite frankly. Jackson and Holly have lied and backstabbed as well. Difference is, they don’t try to act smug and self righteous like Nicole and Cliff. And that is the main reason I have such a problem with those two.

      • NKogNeeTow

        Fair enough. But just so you know, I didn’t disrespect your comment, just disagreed with it.

    • Tam

      Wow. Ok. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I disagree with you, Sherrilea. I see them enjoying the basic FACT that they have been the outsiders, underestimated, used for the popular kids scapegoats and now having clawed their way to the position they are in enjoying themselves. I don’t see any cockiness or arrogance in an manner. They have honored their deals and now are playing THEIR games for the prize just as the others have. They haven’t backdoored, backstabbed or directly lied, manipulated or browbeat other HG to anyone to be subject to their will. They have been quite upfront and considerate of other people’s feelings. As far as the dumbass hillbilly redneck comment about Cliff he is quite accomplished in his field, has traveled the world and has been very respectful of other cultures and accepting of different beliefs and views, and we don’t have hills in Houston. He may not be a cultured as you may life, but he is a genuine, kind hearted, humble man. Something that is a beautiful sight in many’s eyes. Nicole is a good girl with a kind and generous heart. She has been pretty straight forward about where she stands. She plays with integrity and genuinely cares about other people’s feelings. You have your view and sorry that you see them that way. You have your opinion and that is your right. More power to you. I just don’t agree with you or share your sentiments. I didn’t rush to thumb you down. But I will give you one. As I am sure that you will do the same to many of ours that are glad to see Nicole come into her own through personal growth and maturity. Cliff has and will continue to have a high standing in my book. To each is their own. Have a great night, Chae.

      • BBGurl

        I never said Cliff was a stupid redneck hillbilly. There are many intellectual rednecks. Some of my relatives have genius level IQ’s yet they still have redneck hillbilly traits and tendencies. I’m fine with you not agreeing with me. I don’t agree with you, either. But not agreeing with me and attacking me like Dan did are two vastly different things. If I had behaved as he did, I have no doubt my membership would have been revoked. Also, as to your claim stating that there are no hills in Houston, I beg to differ.
        Enjoy your night. ta-ta.

      • NKogNeeTow

        Nobody’s membership will be revoked. Comments may be deleted sometimes but that’s about the extent of it. 🙂

      • Tam

        Sherrilea(46 comments)September 12, 2019 at 12:05 am
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        I guess the old saying about power going to people’s head, is true. Nicole wins twice and has become quite the little snarky bitch. Been reading a lot of BB Twitter stuff and am just disgusted with her and Cliff’s behavior the past couple of days. I have always thought Cliff was a dumbass hillbilly redneck, so I’m not surprised where he is concerned but Nicole’s behavior has shocked me. I can only hope and pray that Jackson beats both their asses and wins BB 20. Hell, I’ll be ok if Tommy wins, as long as it isn’t those 2, lying, backstabbing POS. Now please control yourselves while you rush to thumbs down my post. LMAO

        Sherrilea, I was not personally attacking you in any manner, just simply stating my opinion. Sorry if you thought it was a personal attack. I have copied your post above so that you can see that you have indeed called Cliff as dumbass hillbilly redneck so we can debate semantics but personally I would rather not. Again, you have your opinion as I do. Agree to just disagree. That’s the beauty of the life…….Adieu

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      Yam I agree with you. They’ve stayed under the radar until it counted.

      • Tam

        Welcome, Mamab…..
        I believe so and it is a strategy that has worked well since they were dealt some pretty bad cards in the beginning. 🙂

    • Mary

      @ Sherrilea, just wanted to point out that this is BB 21 not BB 20. Kaycee already won BB 20.

    • ShoeLover

      Hey, Sherrilea,

      Fair enough, you have your opinion and that’s all cool. Just don’t forget the same folks you are defending had some pretty harsh words for Nicole and for Cliff. My main thing when it comes to Big Brother is everybody had their own opinion and also their given favorites. I just want you to remember Nicole’s name has been drudged throug the worst case scenario, HER NAME. And that usually ruins someone’s character outside the house. Now sure she has become a focal point in this game the last couple of days, but if you were Nicole or I was Nicole we would be super noticeable by now if we were the ones winning some of the important comps this week and last week. I think everyone goes through some sort of BIG HEAD when they are on top at the moment. I know I would if I was treated like dirt and my name ran through the mud a couple of thousand times. Remember, Jessica said it to Nicole’s face, I DON’T TRUST YOU.. and for why??? Because what she was told???

      So I will support your thoughts because every BBJ fan is entitled to their opinion, but just remember most folks are looking out for the girl, that went through bunches of shit and still managed to over come her bullies and conquer her shit daily with a level and PROUD mind!! Love ya for your thoughts.

      • ShoeLover

        Ooooops I forgot to add in case others are reading!! Nicole may have won two comps, just don’t forget she has NEVER competed in a veto until the Live Double Eviction, so she truly has some bragging rights allowed and, WOW!!! Nicole has stepped up to the plate undeniably from that and moving forward!!

      • Tam

        Agree, Shoes…….Nugget has done the best with what she has been given to work with……

      • ShoeLover

        Thanks you Miss Tam!!! That is my whole reason to respond. Every person is entitled to their favorite houseguest. I just don’t always agree to the bashing of a certain or regular houseguest. But I will let them voice what ever. No guilt trips.

        Okay I think I am going to look over the application to apply.

        Forgive me Steve and his beautiful wife…… y’all might get it’s of emails and questions.

        Heck if Nicole can apply last year and still make it through this year, maybe I can have that dream too?????????

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      Just to be clear, do you actually watch feeds or are you just reading Twitter?

      • Mary

        That’s what I wanted to ask AmberB. Though I kept out it, I heard Colby’s calm voice in my head, ‘ Don’t feed the trolls ‘ .

  21. NKogNeeTow

    BACK

    Outer Bedroom:

    TT comes in while FAH is packing. She says she brought so many clothes that she hasn’t worn. He tells her she has so many clothes. She says that and she wears baby shirts. She said she brought the biggest suitcase she could find in the store and when she got there they took some of her clothes. TT says it was good she didn’t have to fly there. She first says it’s because she brought her car. Then she changes it and says she didn’t drive her car. *This fool changes lies in the middle of the same conversationn.*

    She tells TT that she didn’t have that many lounging clothes. She says Sis brought a lot.TT says Kat did too. He tells her it’s smart that she’s double bagging. He asks her isn’t it weird that the DE happened almost a week ago. He says it almost doesn’t feel like it happened. She agrees. She says she doesn’t have that many costumes because she didn’t play in that many comps. He asks her how many did she play in. She says 12. *WTH?* He starts to count them down. She says she guesses she didn’t calculate right. He says she was at 12 when he was at 13.

    She says she doesn’t want to pack any shoes. He tells her to leave out an athletic outfit, comfortable shoes, a lounge outfit, pajamas, and something to wear tomorrow. He said that’s what he left out when he packed. She says that sounds good. She gets called to change her mic. She leaves and comes back. He tells her he’s wearing his better outfit tomorrow because he feels that that’s when you’re the most seen. She looks at a dress and says it might be a little riskque for onstage with Julie.

    He asks her if she thinks they clean their windows during lock down. She says probably. She has her fancy dresses on hangers and TT remarks how pretty they are. She says the brown one she only wore once to a wedding.

    Commercial

  22. NKogNeeTow

    BACK

    Outer Bedroom:

    FAH still packing. TT still sitting with her. She mumbles something to him and he says he knows. TT says he’s going to finish packing too. They hug and she sings block buddies and he leaves while she continues packing. She stops for a moment and stares, then continues to pack.

    Living Room:

    Cliff is at the 9-11 table with Fruit Loops and adding something to the message.

    Outer Bedroom:

    TT is laughing abut something with FAH. JJ comes in and hugs FAH. She looks sad and he is expressionless. She tries to muster up a few tears and finally does. He holds her and still stares off, emotionless.

    Living Room:

    Cliff is still working on the table. It looks like he’s spelling out Thanks.

    Outer Bedroom:

    JJ whispers something in FAH’s ear and she whispers something back. They let go and just stand there looking at each other as she sniffs. He tells her he’s proud of her and tells her to come here, pulls her close and hugs her and she cries.

    Kitchen:

    TT is sitting on the oddly placed sofa. He’s looking sad, like he wants to cry.

    Outer Bedroom:

    FAH has continued packing. Cliff comes in and tells JJ that he changed the message little bit. FAH gets called to the DR. JJ tells her “go get’em soul sister.”

    Kitchen:

    JJ comes in and eats something on the table. Cliff brings the box of Fruit Loops back into the kitchen.

    Commercial

  23. danmtruth

    Lets se if JJ pouts tonight or if he interacts with the remaining HG Tommy Cliff JJ feeding the fish Cliff and JJ to play chess All in the house seem to feel that holly is dead man walking

  24. NKogNeeTow

    BACK

    Tree House:

    JJ feeds the fish while TT watches. Cliff sets up the Chess board so he and JJ can play. They start a quiet game. *Cliff has often said that JJ is smarter than he lets on and he can tell by the way he plays Chess.*

    HOH:
    .
    FAH is doing what she does best. Putting on makeup.

    Tree House:

    Silent game still going on.

    HOH:

    FAH is talking to Nicole, who is in the shower. She tells Nicole she’s washing her face.

    Tree House:

    Silent game still going on. You can hear the sound of plastic bags rattling in the background (TT, downstairs).

    Commercial

  25. Annabelle

    Nite guys I have two dogs one on each side of me snoring and a cat sleeping on me so I think I’ll join them. I don’t know how exciting bbad will be this time tomorrow but it will be less whiney.

  26. danmtruth

    Holly in her gappy place Putting nackup on in the HOH room
    Warpaint
    https://youtu.be/z773qEziDJk

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  28. NKogNeeTow

    BACK

    Tree House:

    Silent Chess game still going on. TT is now sitting there watching.

    HOH:

    FAH is telling Nicole that she doesn’t know why she’s emotional today and has cried about a multitude of stuff. Nicole tells her she’s sorry and she loves them both very much and she and Cliff are going to talk tonight and make a decision. FAH tries to tug at Nicole’s heartstrings and tells her it just hurts very much and she needs just a week and she’ll be over the moon. *Next week she’ll be begging for another.* Nicole tells her she’s sorry again.

    FAH starts in on Nicole again and tells her to talk to Cliff and anything that they can come up with that will make her feel better she’s open. Nicole tells her that they feel that they might be sitting theirselves up for failure if JJ wins next week and one of them are out. She says she fears going into next week and not winning and going out fourth. She says that’s her biggest concern. FAH keeps telling her she doesn’t forsee that happening and she can guarantee things and doesn’t know what TT has guaranteed.

    FAH tells Nicole she’s curious what TT actually would do for his best chances. *He’d do the same thing you would.* FAH tells Nicole that TT is still back and forth and if he’s selling something now what will he be selling next week. She then turns around and says she loves TT and has been one of his closest allies from the beginning and not to assume anything. *Now I understand the meaning of “With friends like these, who needs enemies:.*

    FAH tells Nicole she just needs one more week and for her to talk to Cliff. Nicole tells her she adores her. FAH says it doesn’t change the way she feels about any of them in the house and she and JJ have always separated the game from personal, a lot more than people have seen. *I’ll be glad when she’s gone just so I won’t have to listen to anymore of these poorly thought out lies.* Nicole tells her she loves her and leaves. FAH continues to put on makeup.

    Tree House:

    The silent game rages on. TT still the spectator.

    Commercial

  29. NKogNeeTow

    BACK

    Camper:

    Nicole is sitting on the floor putting away things in a drawer. She stops and looks at the picture of her dog an whispers “my Georgia peach”, puts the picture down and says this sucks. She puts her glasses on and leaves the room and goes into the bathroom.

    Tree House:

    Silent game still going on. TT looks bored but hanging in there watching. JJ watches the fish while Cliff watches the board.

    Commercial

  30. danmtruth

    One last talk between nicole and Holly demonstrated just what Holly is lacking Any idea of seeing things from someone elses point of view In this case failing to understand Nicoles concern of her AND cliff being able to make it to F-3 Nicole tells her flat out it concerns her with a F-4 her CLiff Holly JJ if either of those 2 would bring both N/C Holly answer was dont assume things That was all she could come up withThan it is trash Tommy for what everdeal hemade

    • Tam

      Yeah, JJ. We knows that you would lie and stab anyone in the back. He and She are just unable to understand anyone else’s point of view. Funny how she wasn’t fighting for Nicole when she was on the block, but now her ass is on the block she is whining to him and rousing him up. These two deserve each other. Narcissistic and entitled. They would be the first ones to dump and shit on them in a heartbeat if the shoes were on the other feet. They would do what is best for their game and be like Oh Well we had to do what is best for our game. JJ is thinking with his hose instead of his head. She is a liability and he can’t see that because he can’t stand to sleep or be alone. The minute she is gone he will probably be all buddy buddy with someone in their. Said it before and will say it again. They stab from the front. OK, yes, the guilt trip will work everytime. I don’t do guilt trips. That just makes me want to cut you off and out right there. Go ahead, JJ. Be the pompous douche title you earned since the beginning back. And wonder why that is………SMDH…..He is 24 and thinks that he knows everything. Go sit your ass back down and think about listening and learning for a change….Young buck full of piss and vinegar….

    • NKogNeeTow

      She couldn’t hear Nicole because she was to wrapped up in the sound of her own voice.

  31. Kari

    Finally got to watch tonight’s episode. I have to laugh when Cliff was walking around convincing himself that he could do it and his self positive tox and it’s showing clips of him doing the other challenges. I don’t know I just got a kick out of it.

    Our little nugget really did kick ass didn’t she?! She needed that ego boost and I’m glad she’s feeling happy with herself listening to her talk happy with herself was like I was a proud mom watching.

  32. NKogNeeTow

    BACK

    Tree House:

    The silent Chess game is finally over. Not sure who won. The guys break up and go their separate ways.

    HOH:

    JJ comes in and tells FAH she looks pretty. She’s still putting on makeup. She asks him if he talked to Cliff. He tells her TT was there. She tells him she talked to Nicole and Nicole said she has to talk to Cliff. She tells JJ that she knows Nicole talks to Cliff all the time. She tells JJ what she said to Nicole and what Nicole said to her. He listens quietly but intently. FAH tells him how she tried to convince Nicole that she and JJ are playing separate games.

    She says she’s tempted to tell them that JJ sent Sis home because he found out she had a F4 with Sis, FAH, CC and TT. She asks him if that’s okay. He says he thinks that is smart. He says that based on what she just told him his loyalty to them is over and he will lie to them and stab them in the back from now on. FAH tells him how they (N/C) lied to them. JJ says he hates the fucking Backstreet Boys. *LOL* FAH tells him he literally gave her the HOH room.

    Camper:

    Unsuspecting Cliff and Nicole are talking about going up to talk to JJ and FAH. Nicole says she’s going to finish cleaning the room then she’ll go up.

    HOH:

    FAH tells JJ that if she walks into the JH and tells them that she was lied to by Cliff and Nicole, they are going to lose a lot of respect. JJ looks up and sees Cliff on the monitor. He says he hopes he’s coming in there. JJ and FAH watches the monitor but no one comes in. JJ says he’s going downstairs and eavesdrop. He says if they can say it to America, they can say it to his face. She ask what if they catch him. He says he will ask they why couldn’t they stick to their word. She says that if they catch him to say he was just walking through.

    JJ says he’s going down to talk to them and lay a guilt trip on them. FAH says to lay it on thick and to guilt them about getting rid of her. She says to ask Cliff if he’s do that to his daughter. *I hope when he does, Nicole and Cliff looks at them and just says two words…Say Goodbye.*

    Commercial

  33. davidsgirl

    Oh boy, here we go…………

    Jackson approaching Cliff. And Holly’s on her way up.

    • davidsgirl

      Sorry I meant Nicole.

    • Tam

      Bring it on, bitches…….Boxhead of Hagalong are just so self absorbed and can’t see anything outside of what they want to. Narcissistic, entitled, privileged, and only care about themselves without any consideration as to what the other players have to do for themselves. JJ get over your personal butt hurt and realize that this man has a family as is doing what is best for HIS GAME NOT YOURS. He talks about being honest and respectful when they haven’t give a true damn about anyone but themselves. SHIT CHANGES, deal with it. The world is not your oyster…….. You can tell he is used to getting his way and doesn’t know how to handle it when he doesn’t. Stay strong Cliff and school him in the reality of the real world. Life is going to rip him a new one if Momma doesn’t step in and make sure his life is as he has seemed to have had it……Go eat a protein bar and STFU…..No one can trust you because you have been wishy washy with your own HOHs, you missed your shots, and used these people as pawns for further your game without a second thought, now that he isn’t getting his way it’s their wrong…….BS FLAG, BS ALARM………Fucking deal with it, ass munchie

  34. davidsgirl

    He and Holly just want to know everything they are thinking so they can shoot it all down and cut anykind of deal just to get through a week.

  35. davidsgirl

    They keep falling onto this integrity thing of keeping your word and yet they forget they promised Analyse she was just a pawn and she went home. But that was ok because they had to do it for their game.

  36. NKogNeeTow

    BACK

    HN:

    JJ is confronting Cliff and is upset that Cliff wants to do what’s good for his individual game. *Who else’s game should he be concerned about?* Cliff tells him that he’s struggling with not keeping their agreement, then explains his reasoning for his decision. Cliff says he doesn’t want to be a third wheel in a two person alliance. You can hear JJ grunting and grimmacing. Cliff says that’s what killing him. JJ continues with his guilt trip. He tells Cliff that the fact that he’s going back on their deal. Cliff tells him that he’s not making this decision on a personal level. JJ says he’s not playing on a personal level either.

    Camper:

    Nicole is talking to TT. She tells him about her convo with FAH. TT says he’s been on the outs for a while and trying to find his way back in. Nicole says that JJ kept telling her don’t forget she owes him. She says she won on her own and has an opportunity to take her amazing win, pull her ally down and get rid of someone who isn’t there for her. She says why wouldn’t she take it. TT tells her that she’s proven that she’s given.

    Nicole says it will be great if they can prove to TT and he can prove back to them. Nicole says that they gave to JJ/FAH but they are even now. Nicole asks TT where he stands with the HOH tomorrow. He says he will throw it to show it and hope that if one of them win the Veto they would take him. He says he feels that 4th place is better than 5th and he feels it’s a chance worth taking.

    HN:

    JJ is still on his Guilt Tour. He asks Cliff who would he rather win the HOH, TT or FAH. Cliff tells him he doesn’t care about the HOH. *HA!* Cliff says he’s getting pulled in 2 different directions and he has to make a decision tonight. JJ tells him that he thinks Cliff is intelligent and he knows that he came to win for his family but there can only be one winner. He says he’s the same with FAH and he knows he’s the same with Nicole. Cliff tells him he knows how much of a threat TT is and has seen him studying the wall.

    Commercial

  37. davidsgirl

    It just drives me nuts that they (Jackson and Holly ) can’t just respect them and let them make their won decisions. They just can’t let up and keep driving the whole issue. Uuuuuhhhhgggggggg!

  38. TeeJ

    Just logged on and have NOT read anyone’s updates. I think it is important to share that as I also just turned on the live feeds and am watching a conversation between Cliff and Jackson in the HN room..
    Jackson is presenting a good, and fair, discussion. Cliff has absolutely impressed me with his commitment to to his partnership with Nicole.
    So far, this is one of the better game conversations I have seen. Both are representing themselves well.

    Now. Back to catching up on the comments/updates to see what I missed.

  39. NKogNeeTow

    BACK

    HN:

    JJ is telling Cliff that the sword he dies on is the one he can live with. Cliff says he believes him. JJ tells him that FAH, CC, TT, and SS had a F4 and that’s why he put SS OTB to weaken FAH so she would have no one but him. He says they support each other but are not each other. He says when he shook their hands he meant that. Cliff said he did too. JJ says when they shook he expected it to be mutual and it’s gut-wrenching that it isn’t. Cliff says it is for him too and he’s not saying it might not be.

    JJ says it’s not so much that he’s pushing to keep FAH, as much as he’s pushing to get rid of TT. He tells him that the 4 of them have a strong chance and if TT is there their chance weakens. Cliff tells him that he will have to discuss it with Nicole. JJ says to let him know and if they want to talk, he’ll talk to them. JJ is laying it on thick and Cliff keeps telling him to let him talk to Nicole. JJ keeps saying that it just doesn’t make sense to keep TT. Cliff keeps trying to get out of the convo but JJ won’t let up the pressure.

    Commercial

  40. NKogNeeTow

    BACK

    Boat Room:

    FAH and TT are talking. JJ comes in and she tells him she is having a Hot Takes With Hols. *Oh Brother* She wonders if the cameras have been on them the whole time. JJ notices that the cameras are new. She keeps asking the cameras if they have met JJ. They keep trying to make the cameras respond. JJ lays down on the sofa and TT starts messing with the cameras.

    JJ asks them if he can tell them a secret. He tells them he has never watched BB. TT asks if he’s lying. FAH says he’s lying and says something like that about once a day. He laughs and says he’s lying. TT ask JJ what he’s going to do after the show. He says he’s going into fitness. He says he’s lived in LA since February and belongs to Gold’s Gym. He says that it will take him a few weeks to get back into shape when he leaves.

    Commercial

  41. NKogNeeTow

    BACK

    Boat Room:

    JJ, TT, and FAH still talking to the cameras. JJ says to be on the lookout for TT’s tour. TT says that when JJ get’s married, he will be the one officiating. JJ says there will be an open bar. JJ tells FAH that she will be at his wedding whether he’s marrying her or not. *WTH?* JJ wants to tell America their terms for some of the things in the house. They leave to go to the kitchen.

    Kitchen:

    They say Scottish means something disgusting and yucky. They walk around and point to things they think are Scottish. TT says the term comes from a trip he made to a strip club in Scotland and it was gross. He said he got a lapdance from a girl who was wearing nothing but a kilt and no underwear. Nicole comes in and they divert from his story for a moment.

    TT says his friend bought him a lapdance on his face and her smelly body grazed his nose and was disgusting and thus the term Scottish was born.

    HN:

    Cliff is talking to Nicole about the convo he had with JJ and is telling her he doesn’t disagree with him.

    And with that, BBAD IS OVAH! I’m debating whether to peek at the feeds and get hung up half the night there or just take my tired azz to bed. Either way, have a GREAT day tomorrow!

  42. NKogNeeTow

    Nite Tonto, Teej,Tam, DG, Sherri, Kari, and anyone else who’s still awake out there. 🙂

  43. danmtruth

    Good night all Holly jackson tommy are just being anoying explaining the made up words they have sorry dont care Glad that they are having there camera time It ends because jackson needs to takeover every conversation Snd talks over people Holly mentions it so jackson pouts and leaves niw he comes back just to say he is not going to hang out with them because he does not want to take the spotlight away from them

  44. davidsgirl

    Looks like its just you and me left Tam unless someone else is out there lurking. Ha!

  45. davidsgirl

    It’s so sad that this is such an agonizing decision for Holly and Cliff. If it was me, I would NEVER leave a showmance in the house.

    • TeeJ

      DsG: I hear you on the showmance.

      HN: Cliff & Nicole.
      It is clear from listening to C&N that they are still trying to play as honest a game as possible. One of their concerns was making promises to both Tommy and Jackson as then they would have lied to the other.
      Tommy comes in, game conversation ensues. Tommy asked if they were concerned about going back on their word. They said they were. Tommy mentions that most everyone has broken their word. Really??? Is that the best approach to negotiating an alliance?

      I still remember Tommy basically saying that his word only means something if he promises or shakes hands.

      *Was fun watching Jackson sneaking up to the HV not to listen in, lol*

      • Tam

        I missed Jackson sneaking up, but it doesn’t surprise me. BS on his word is his bond. He has shown that not to be true imo……He says they are playing his own games, but he isn’t allowing them, too. BS flag on him. Kiss the girl goodbye and go forward. His game is in her and why should he bash them for looking out each other because ultimately they are doing the exact the same thing. Go with your gut because heart and head will always mislead you. They should tell HB about JJ talking about being ok with her going. Turn the tables. Sad they pull this on them on 9 11. Sours my opinion on them. Now he is trying to be lovey dovey to Nicole. Don’t trust him whatsoever. He is lying to your face and kick him to the curb. He is covering his ass and I would tell him to leave me alone and let me think. He had no problem earlier he would do whatever to them and he is staying true to his word. Take y’alls ass to the HOH and enjoy for the last night……

    • Tam

      Yep, I would break that up in a heartbeat. Not a smart move to leave them in the house together. I wouldn’t trust HB in there. That doesn’t make a fair fight for everyone involved. I agree with Nugget. Have a house meeting and let them knock the dust off their logic. And I sure as hell wouldn’t trust JJ. Find it sad that they are baggering Nugget and Cliff after what they said upstairs. Hard choice between the two devils and a third on the shoulder. Stay strong Nugget and Cliff.

  46. davidsgirl

    So this is for who ever is out there that doesn’t have the live feeds. Cliff and Nicole were talking and then Tommy came in. they shared some things with him and concerns. He pointed out to them that Jackson and Holly have broken promises. And he confirmed the things he would do if they kept him. Tommy said he was going to bed so they Then left the Have Not room and went to the RV. Holly met Nicole and Cliff there. And she’s picking their brain again. Uuuuggghhh.

  47. Tam

    Go Nicole. Let the fire burn and don’t let them bully, pressure, or emotionally blackmail you. Stay strong and go to bed. HB go pack and leave that girl alone. You have done your damage. Call them all out tomorrow and let the truth come out and then make YOUR decision that is best for YOUR game……You are stronger than you know……

  48. Tam

    OK, BBJ fam y’all have a great night/morning and see y’all on the flip side…..

  49. Helen

    Looks like Jackson has flipped Nicole and Cliff….with lies..
    Tommy probably going to jury tomorrow

    • ScaryTerri

      Did it seem suspect to you that Jackson came up with his brilliant scheme right after leaving DR??? He was in the HOH saying to himself think think think. Guess someone was already thinking for him. Unless I missed a good reason he went to DR. He said no one else was getting called in. It was personal but he couldn’t talk about it.

      • Helen

        Yeah…it’s BS..

      • Helen

        I’m just over it…
        I guess if they have flipped to keep Holly one of them deserves to go to jury next week…

      • Kari

        There’s no way in hell that production isnt influencing these people. I wish some former contestant would talk and exposes the crap

      • amareels

        Hold on Scary, when did he go to the DR? I was watching this last night and I don’t remember him getting called out after he sneaked in and listened to TT/N/C talks in the have not room. He ran back twice to listen and then back to the HOH. He was hyped up saying, “THINK, THINK, THINK.” Was it after that and I just missed it?

      • ScaryTerri

        It was after the “think think think” and before he went in the RV. I apologize for not having more detail. It was 5am here. Maybe someone else has further info.
        I’m not big on conspiracy theories, but this yr nothing would surprise me.

      • ScaryTerri

        I just read the morning recap and looks like I misunderstood what happened. I thought C/N/H all said they heard him get called and that’s why they asked if everyone had to go in. I’m wrong! Guess Jackson faked it…..kudos to him for the game move.

  50. Mary

    OH BOY !!!
    The vote is getting ready to flip back to voting out Tommy. Nicole and Cliff debating everything up in the HN room. Showmance VS stronger smarter player. Nicole has gone over and over and over it, then over and over and over it again. Cliff’s ready to fall over like Hog’s bunny on the computer.

    Now Tommy is up there kissing butt. Which will make Nicole more indecisive. Tommy is promising to take Jackson out to C & N. Says they (Holly & Jackson ) have been up in the HOH room all summer, and Jackson is a comp beast. Now C & N are going downstairs to the RV room to finish debating who they are going to vote out.

    JJ’s in bed watching the HOH camera’s. Holly is still packing. Now Holly’s in the RV room with them. I think Cliff just wants to go to sleep and the kids won’t let him. Tommy and Jackson had a short conversation. Now Jackson was called to the Dr and stopped to hug Holly while she is talking to Cliff and Nicole. Holly is throwing Tommy back under the bus. Now she is blaming Jackson for evicting Sis, saying he wanted to take one of her closest allies out.

    Jackson is back in the RV room with them, Holly left. So it’s 1:00 and they’re still campaigning. Now Jackson is telling C & N that Tommy told him that he promised to throw the HOH and that he wants to work with Jackson and get them out. Now Nicole wants to have a house meeting to hash out the lies. Jackson says he would prefer doing it tomorrow, he doesn’t want to have a blow up tonight. Now Nicole is pissed and has left the room, she’s hiding in the toilet, Jackson went in and gave her a hug. She’s pissed. She’s sick and tired of people lying to her, and spewing shit. Now she’s back in the RV room, Cliff comes in and then comes Holly says she just wanted to say goodnight. Now Nicole is upset and ranting at Cliff.

    Jackson and Holly are in the HOH and Jackson admitted that he opened the hallway door leading to the HN room and heard Tommy’s pitch to Cliff and Nicole. Jackson’s upset and said that is why he went down there and told them that Tommy told him about his deal with them and would work with Jackson. He says F them, they were voting you out, and I cannot play in the HOH. He hopes Nicole doesn’t go talk to Tommy, is avoiding and not wanting to have a house meeting. Tells Holly there may be a big blow up tomorrow.

    Sorry, I’m not as good as NK. Just playing neighborhood ((Big Brother)) watch.

    Jackson is pissed and playing the game. He will probably stay up all night so Nicole doesn’t have a chance to confirm anything with Tommy. Jackson wants to make them C & N create doubt with Tommy so they vote him out and keep her.
    Now Cliff just woke Tommy up and briefly spoke with him. He came back down and went to the bathroom and when he came out Jackson was laying on the couch wanting to know what was going on.

    Now Tommy and Holly are both downstairs….LOL Jackson does not want Tommy talking to them.
    Back upstairs, Jackson is still mad, knowing they were going to vote Holly out. He is apologizing to Holly if this blows up, though he couldn’t stand by without doing anything. Cliff asks Nicole if he can sleep in there with her, and they’re still talking.

    It’s 2:40 BB time. Cliff and Nicole are still debating. Gosh I wish Tommy would sneak down and talk to C&N.

    Who knows now, I can’t stay awake any longer. My neighbors Rooster crowed and is telling me it’s morning, EST here.
    The HOH lights are out, Jackson is glued to that monitor making sure no one is walking about.

  51. Mary

    Now Nicole and Cliff are talking about Nicole going up and down the hallway banging pots and pans. Get up house meeting. Cliff says no, just bang them and come back to bed.

  52. Mary

    Don’t they have a HOH lock down in the morning on eviction day? They can have a house meeting then.

    • Helen

      Yes they do….for tech rehearsal around 1130 am..

    • Kari

      Mary, you did an incredible job! Thank you so much!

      trying to clarify since I don’t follow everything. Is it just Holly and Jackson that were lying to Nicole or was it Tommy as well? I see the Jackson doesn’t want Tommy to talk to them which is complete crap and it should be a huge red flag. Hopefully Cliff figure that part out when he talked to him..

      • Mary

        Yes Jackson was lying to Nicole and Cliff, he ease dropped when Tommy went into the Nave Not room and heard Tommy tell Nicole and Cliff he would allow them to have the HOH, which JJ can’t play in.

  53. KelBel

    What happened to Jackson being ok with/giving Nicole the green light to get rid of G-ma B?

    • amareels

      He was fine with it after they made final four. All I can say Is he got mad watching tv in the HOH room with the convo going on in the have not room with TT/N/C . You could see him change into a spoiled brat that doesn’t want to loose. So he decided to tip the odds in his favor.

      • Mary

        put this in the wrong place. Jackson did get upset and lied to Nicole and Cliff. To create doubt so they would vote out Tommy.

      • KelBel

        LOL… I thought “NO” was kind of a strong reaction to my question 😉

      • Mary

        My bad KelBel. LOL
        I don’t know how NK does it. I was listening and trying to type what the heck was going on. Jackson was being sneaky, then went and lied to Cliff and Nicole. It should make an interesting morning if Jackson allows them to be alone to talk.

      • KelBel

        I certainly hope Nicole gets a chance to confront Tommy about JJ’s blatant lie!

        You gave a fantastic recap following NK last night…thank you! 🙂

  54. Betty Boo

    I feel like we would all be up in arms if it were Jackson going back on the F4 deal, but since it’s Nicole, everyone is letting it slide right by. And if they aren’t going to keep their word on F4, why should Tommy keep his word to them to put Jackson OTB? He could get to F2 instead of the F3 they are promising. There’s a difference in changing your mind after you tell someone you are going to do something and giving your word and shaking on it.

  55. Avatar

    Me personally I think it’s stupid to keep Tommy over holly . So there is an hoh next week michie can’t compete . He goes up regardless. Tommy win hoh puts him up there michie wins the veto . They send one of two packing . So now you have to compete the final hoh competition. Do you really want to compete against tommy and michie in the final hoh . Not only that tommy has way to many friends on the jury then you know he has a guaranteed vote from Christie so that’s one vote you know your not getting sitting next to Tommy in the final 2

  56. Avatar

    Jackson should want Holly in the jury so that he could have her vote. Jackson can’t play in the next HOH but he should have to hope that he can win the veto if nominated to push himself into the final 3 and playing for the win.

  57. danmtruth

    This is what makes this game crazy We as live feed watchers know a bit more than the people in the house The one big thing we dont know is what is being told to them in the DR
    First game Jackson keeps talking about what happens in the F-3 While Nicole & Cliff are talking about the bestF-4 that can get them to F-3 As they see it a F-4 of JJ, Holly,Nicole,and Cliff only leaves one spot open for them As Jackson has said his best chance to win is sitting next to Holly While a F-4 of TT,JJ ,Cliff Nicole gives them a better chance of both getting to F-3 as tommy and JJ neither wants to be sitting next to the other in F-2 as both feel the other has a strong argument with the jury as to why they should win
    Cliff and nicole have said this is not only about a chance to win it all But all so a cjance to better line themselves to if not win be able to take 2

    • Helen

      Exactly….if they keep holly tonight there is a high probability either Cliff or Nicole go to jury next week…
      If neither Nicole or Cliff can win veto ( and lets face there’s a darn good chance with Jackson there they might not).
      Jackson is not going to send holly home and holly isn’t going to send Jackson.
      The deal they made with Cliff and Nicole was not for a F3….

  58. Sabrina

    Agreed, Holly has to go. They may have no chance against Tommy in final two, but final two doesn’t even matter if you never get there.

    • KelBel

      Agree…and they do have the weapon of using the TT/CC prior relationship. Will it sway votes? Maybe, maybe not…but it IS a weapon and for as much as people were up in arms about G-ma and Kat knowing each other, this tid bit should make the jury think twice.

  59. Nancy

    You’re right Sabrina..F2 doesn’t matter if you never get there….
    I went to bed with visions of HollyBeth leaving..I wake to Tommy is now possibly leaving.
    I cant leave you kids alone for one second! I’ve got to re-read everything to get it straight in my head.
    On a better note, I have my CBS station back!!

  60. Mary

    Mel’s thread is up….. 🙂

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