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Big Brother 19 – Saturday Feed Updates – Veto Comp!


I went to bed fairly early last night as I was feeling like crap, so my posts today may be lousy but there is your warning!

Yesterday, the feeds were down almost the entire day as the temptation comp took place which lasted some 7+ hours or so and then nominations were surprisingly long as well.  While I may have missed some of what happened in the house when the feeds finally returned, I could tell you all about the puppy and kitten cam I stared at all day.

Let me give you a little summary –

  • Cody won the temptation comp. He is safe this week
  • Jessica finished last, she is the 3rd nominee
  • Josh nominated Mark and Elena and really wants to get Elena out this week

This should make for an interesting week as Paul wants to remain on track for getting out Jessica rather than one of his own pound members Elena. For some reason, Josh is completely determined to see Elena walk out the door, despite admitting he likes her and even has a crush on her.  His reasoning is that she’s shady and is playing both sides of the house (and not that he’s jealous he can’t have her.. *wink wink*).  One thing is remaining consistent in that Jessica continues to play a terrible game.  Last night around 10:45, Josh approached Jessica to have a private conversation in the HoH room and she refused.  She is still upset that he ‘literally’ threw trash on her on the day her father passed away.  This is referring to the HoH competition when people chose a person for a ‘punishment’ after they left the comp. While she may have a point that she did have a personal talk with Josh earlier in the day kind of mending fences and he knew what day that was to her, he didn’t ‘literally’ throw trash on her. He chose her for the punishment and they did the trash thing.

I’m not taking sides on this Josh versus Jessica issue, I’m merely pointing out bad gameplay and bad gameplay is holding grudges, especially against the HoH. With Cody safe, she could have swallowed her pride and tried to cut a deal with Josh to take her off the block but decided to stay angry. Of course, she doesn’t realize that Josh wants Elena out so she has a realistic shot at actually making a deal, but that shouldn’t matter.  Rather than prepare herself for sulking in the room all week with Cody, she should be trying to play the game and save herself. Despite her passion and willingness to not automatically follow Paul around the house like everyone else, Jessica is really bad at this game.

Big day today. If Cody plays veto and wins, or if Jessica wins, the house is going to erupt because there will be no dancing around the fact that someone not named ‘Jody’ will be leaving the week before they’re guaranteed a solid $5k+ by making it to jury.  That should be fun!


  • 9:15 am – The lights are on but the house is slow to get up.
    • They will be picking players for the veto competition shortly.
    • Two players will be picked to play along Josh, Jessica, Elena, and Mark
  • 10:05 am – Feeds cut for HoH lockdown
    • They come back and it’s time for HN picks
    • Scratch that – The card says no havenots this week except Elena because she picked wrong last week when she gambled her fate
    • Cody runs into the HN room to remove his stuff, he thanks Big Brother
    • He and Jessica take up residence in their bed for the week
    • Jess says that Paul is full of shit in the real world. She said she’s never seen him but would if he did what he said he did
    • She is going to make someone up and see if Paul ‘knows’ him
    • Cody begins talking about someone he knew in the Army who lied all the time. It’s funny because he said ‘it’s sad because nobody is going to question his service’ – unless he went in the BB house I guess
  • 10:45 am – Cody and Mark are in the bathroom talking. I hope Paul doesn’t walk in because Mark will be punished!
    • Meanwhile, Christmas and Josh are in the kitchen talking relationships.  Exciting pre-veto times in the house!
  • 11:05 am – Christmas is having a brief conversation with Josh in the bathroom
    • They are saying they don’t want the veto used and need to be able to tell Paul somehow
    • Josh is really pushing the Elena out thing and Josh plans on being firm with Paul on it.. sure
  • 12:45 pm – Josh had a talk with Jessica. Here is a summary…
    • Josh apologizes for the personal attacks during the fight. He doesn’t apologize for the pots and pans
    • Jessica says he was selfish for going for the apple in the first comp and Cody didn’t like him for that
    • Josh continues being pretty damn giving in the conversation allowing her every opportunity to talk deal but she’s not having it
    • Both sides make valid points about why they’re upset with each other, but Jessica is in no position of power and needed to swallow it
  • The talk breaks up and Josh retells the conversation to Christmas
    • They talk about how Christmas isn’t going to use her power if Cody is picked to play
    • The two are still talking about how they need to get Elena out but don’t want to scare Paul
  • They break up and head up into the HoH room to talk it over with bossman.
    • After some groveling while telling him that they don’t want to use the hex
    • Paul starts with saying that it’s his HoH so he can do what he wants, but….  and continues on why Jessica still needs to go home
    • He tells that to think about jury (which he has a point).  Jess and Cody are two votes because they can’t think for themselves
    • Elena can be swayed while in jury
    • Josh continues by saying he can’t trust Elena because she can flip. Christmas quickly sides with Paul and tells Josh to think about it. Think about jury
    • Whether Josh likes it or not, Paul is making the better point. Josh’s argument – while entertaining to us – is bad
  • 2:50 pm – I took a small nap.  I return and the worst case happened for Paul
    • Cody got picked to play in the veto!
    • But, Christmas used her power that she was given and swapped him out for her.  Hahahahahahaha
    • After all the tough talk about absolutely not using the power, Christmas buckled under pressure and used it
    • Jessica tells Cody that Kevin offered to work with Cody and keep his safe for some time
    • Cody tells Jessica he appreciates the olive branch but doesn’t want to put Kevin’s game in jeopardy.  He is just going to go out guns blazing and not be someone’s pawn
  • 2:55 pm – Meanwhile, up in the HoH room everyone is telling Josh not to feel bad
  • 4:00 pm – Christmas and Paul have been working Josh on not feeling bad off and on for the past hour. This is painful
  • 4:05 pm – Feeds down for veto!

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  1. danmtruth

    I will say this group has done a bit better at keeping the house some what clean Much better than last year Now they just need to improve food sanitation Xmas cast OFF the table where people eat As said before perhaps to most orally clean group #RavenSTFU not with standing People are always brushing there teeth , flossing or in Ravens case putting things in it Strange how her and her man cant stop filling there mouths
    on to ho-hum noms Operation Josh POWER (?) move is on

    • ElaineB

      I am proud of Josh and his noms! I am in agreement with them. Good to see Josh has more in his arsenal than banging pots and pans. I give him automatic gold stars for sticking to what he wants to do for his HOH reign.

      • NKogNeeTow

        I am too Elaine. I don’t know if he will get what he wants this week, but at least he tried.

      • hogwild

        Agreed up to now I have not been a fan of Josh I thought everyone in the house would use him and toss him aside when they no longer needed him and he would let them it’s good to him playing his game and not everyone else’s I hope this move works out for him.

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      I don’t know who else dose this but I’ve seen Cody leave the water running while he’s brushing his teeth or shaving. This drives me absolutely nuts and I have to fast forward the tv til he’s done. While we did have a lot of rain this winter, California is in a perpetual drought and he’s wasting water. Turn from the faucet while you brushing and washing , you mook.

      • AIO_7

        Khawk, I have seen Cody use, probably, five gallons of water just cleaning his bowl and spoon. Water was full blast. I commented on it at the time.

    • NKogNeeTow

      Oddly enough, it’s the nastiest one in the house that cleans the kitchen the most. MattRess gets up in the middle of the night and cleans the kitchen. Usually it’s after his whatever-he’s-doing-under-the-covers-with-DMW sessions. He get up, goes and eats a big bowl of cereal, cleans the kitchen, then goes back to bed.

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      Raven has become my most hated houseguest in the whole franchise. I wish raven would just #STFU . It painfull to watch her. I am so sick of the GP bs. I think she is a sympathy player and will wind up under the radar. Because who wants to vote out the “sick” person

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    Mark, Elena, Jessica (all remain OTB)
    Cody – Elena | Paul – Jessica
    Xmas – Elena | Matt – Jessica
    Alex – Elena | Raven – Jessica
    Jason – Elena | Kevin – Jessica
    Josh breaks the tie – Elena is out.

    Unless Jess is removed from the block with a POV win from her or Cody (nobody else will risk their game pulling her off the block right now), this plan is dead in the water.

    Paul stayed on Christmas (more quietly but persistently) last night with having her use the POV temptation game replacement if she see’s Jessica getting the upper hand in the POV comp. Xmas agreed with the passive yeah yeah, and “sure if its needed” response. She would be a fool because a) she sacrifices her own game down the line (you don’t know when you will need that pov temptation replacement for yourself), and b) exposes herself to the wrath of Josh because we all know how he hates somebody who goes back on their word and plays both sides of the house (aka goes against him – Elana, Jody, Mark case n point).

    Alex, if you vote for Jessica against what Josh wants, you also face the wrath of his anger and getting outed by not being loyal (to Josh of course). Alex already knows nobody seemingly knows about her and Pauls secret alliance, and if Josh goes on a I hate you roll, then it will make it easier for Paul to cut ties from you, as he has already boldly done with Elena. Can you not see what your fate can be as well.

    Jason may be forced to pick sides way too early for his comfort if he doesn’t check Alex and tell her lets do it Josh’s way for now. Jessica’s days will always be marked before anybody on Team Paul, she is easy to get out. Why just sit there and continue to do it Alex’s way which would also put you on Josh’s hit list as well, especially after he locked you and Alex in last night by stating “this plan of getting Elena out is between us three only, we may never have another chance to talk like this again”.

    Since Josh has become HOH, this new BB week has once again shed light on the poor thinking and potential game moves that go along with individuals who certainly just make me scratch my head in why would you do that. Are these $500K end game moves? When will this madness stop?

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      Helen (5241 comments)

      I think it’s all going to come down to who is picked for veto and what the comp is…..chances of josh winning POV are slim to none…winning last HOH was pure chance……he has done poorly in every other comp this year….
      If Elana or Mark win POV he will have to replace nom and good chance he will put Paul up as “pawn”….others could very well see this as the time to strike and Paul will go home.
      Other than Paul or Cody winning POV noms will probably stay the same….

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        It seems unlikely even in that scenario (Paul up as a pawn and Elena comes off).

        Matt, Raven, Alex for sure votes Jessica
        Xmas is rolling with Paul till further notice (Jessica).
        Kevin wouldn’t blow his game up right now with line in sand (Jessica or Mark)
        Jason is sticking with Alex (foolishly) right now (Jessica)
        Elena to get back in Paul’s good graces and go against Josh further (Jessica)

        Paul, Jessica, Mark can’t vote (they’re on the block)
        Josh only in a tie, there is no tie.

    • Colby

      One can only hope, but they will do what Paul wants. Unless Jessica comes off the block she will go home.
      It will be a replay of Ram vs Josh. They will tell Josh what he want to hear and do what Paul orders. And then tell Josh it was a last minute decision for whatever reason.

    • Sassy

      I just don’t see Alex sticking to this plan. She HATES Jess. I will be surprised if she does not vote to evict Jess.

    • NKogNeeTow

      I think only Grody and Kevin will vote for Lips.

      • Alda

        They better get Jess out now.They can take out Elena later.Josh wants Elena out,because she doesn’t have feelings for him like he does for her.Keeping jess/Cody together in the house is dangerous.

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    Helen (5241 comments)

    Well we can all look forward to Jessica and Cody summer of steam rolling the house when josh gets his way and kicks his crush to the curb…

    • Mel

      Helen, I like that he admits he has a crush on her but wants to kick her out anyway. He isn’t blinded by her boobs at all!

      • Sassy

        He promised his mother no sex in the house, maybe he thinks its better to get her out before things go to far… LOL

      • NKogNeeTow

        I don’t think there’s a chance in hell of that happening Sassy…lol. Josh just isn’t her type. She might rub up against him at best, but that’s all that he’ll get out of her. She’s more attracted to WIR (although not really), she might give it up to him just to get a vote, but not Josh. I just don’t see it.

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    I am shocked and impressed that Josh is making an actual move in this game!

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      It will be interesting to see some movement in the house, it’s goo a get interesting.

    • Shivani33

      Josh got a huge boost of confidence from his win. Maybe he’ll win some more now. His mom’s letter was my favorite all Season, reminding him what to do every morning. He’s got his m*o*j*o working. I’m a fool who loves this guy. If he leaves, the house would have a genuine emptiness, and that’s more than could be said for quite a few of the others. I feel so lucky to see Cuban culture represented, as a Floridian with fantastic Cuban friends. Flamboyant, playful, passionate. And the best coffee on earth w/o the Starbucks price. Keep blooming and booming, Joshy!

      • ShoeLover

        I agree, there would be some sort of boredom emptiness in the house if Josh wasn’t there. I am happy to see him take this HOH as his own. He has no doubt taken some shots from Paul and the peer pressure he pushes upon Josh, ugh! Let’s hope Josh sticks to his guns and do what is best for his game and not Paul’s.

        *side note, I am totally digging the little kitty ears, NOW I WANT SOME!! HAHA!

  5. Tiare

    Is Josh finally waking up? Hopefully so. It will be interesting to see how Paul reacts if and when Elena goes home and the house is split. Josh isn’t really a meatball at all. #staywokeJosh

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      Maybe his goofy act has been his strategy all along and he was just waiting to strike. Nah, I think I’m giving him too much credit.

    • Sassy

      Elena going home isn’t going to fracture that side of the house, they have her on the outside of the circle. She wouldn’t be a loss for either side.

      Josh not following orders like a good puppy is going to be a problem. How dare someone disagree with Paul! Go Josh Go! I am waiting for some good backroom deals.

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      If Jess goes home, the only friend Cody will have in the house is Mark and maybe Elena if she’s pissed off enough at the minions. This may force him out into the open a bit more and he’ll have to interact with the rest of the HGs. That is if Mark and Elena aren’t willing to cuddle with him in the shadows. The thing is, he’s always gonna be a target, he’s the best physical comp player in the house, no contest. That’s the only thing he’s got going for him, although he did do well in the chemistry comp, he gave that on to Jess. I don’t know how Elena going home helps Josh’s game at all. Please explain.

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        Helen (5241 comments)

        It really does not other than it takes an ally away from Jody……and makes him feel like he is in control of his game.
        Other than that the cons far outweigh the pros…..
        Cody and Jessica are both strong competitors….a huge threat to his alliance with Alex
        He makes an enemy with Mark
        He makes an enemy with Paul
        It’s great that he wants to do his own thing (just like Cody did) but I’m really doubtful this is the best move for his game

      • Sassy

        I don’t think it will help his game, other than she is a distraction for him and she uses that when convenient. She is playing him and he knows it. Elena is a wildcard, she is on the side of whoever has power. Getting her out takes away a vote from the majority, not Jody.

  6. AIO_7

    “Maybe his goofy act has been his strategy all along and he was just waiting to strike. Nah,”

    Yeah, Nah is exactly what I was thinking while reading your first sentense.

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    Throwing garbage was part of game, that’s dumb to hold a grudge. Josh did pick on her verbally during that comp, even knowing about her Dad, but she was terrible to him before that so glass houses Jess.

  8. Shivani33

    Elena is the only have-not for the week. None were announced or chosen. She’s still stuck with it because of her bad luck with choosing the wrong key/box. Moo.

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    Helen (5241 comments)

    It always amazes me how people change their attitude and behavior once they become HOH……
    Josh used to get pissed off when people would tell him what do do…yet here he is now telling people what do do…”ya feel me”?

  10. LindsayB

    You all do realize that after POV, Josh literally has zero power. Disclaimer: tie breaker vote, blah blah blah
    He has to convince people to vote a certain way. Does he have that skill set? I don’t think so. Does Jessica and/or Cody have that skill set to campaign? So far, no. We all saw during Jessica’s HOH that the actual power is short lived. It’s all about who can campaign the votes better and so far the only person who has shown the ability to do that is Paul.

    • Mel

      I like the fact that Josh is very aware of the fact that he has no power after the veto and he’s also very aware that he has to convince people. He may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but he’s playing it very different than Cody or Jessica did. Josh isn’t assuming it’s a given that he will get his way. He also knows Paul is the key and he’s taken the first two steps to change Paul’s mind. The first one was sticking to his guns when Paul was saying no no no, Josh continued to say yes yes yes. The second was his little hoh meeting with Elena and Paul to let him know Elena was trying to get Paul otb. It may not work but he’s definitely taking the right steps to have the best chance of success.

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  12. Mel

    I think Josh has always been goofy, his emotional outbursts in the beginning of the game were sincere and that he isn’t clever enough for that to be an act. I do think he has some game in him but this is the first time he’s been in a position to not only play but also have a bit of power. He started out by panicking and being enemy number one, he moved up to being the house punching bag, then he allowed himself to be used as a number, next came being used for Paul’s head game strategy and then he worked his way up to being an actual part of the team. It was a great time to win HOH while he has this momentum. He’s still nuts but could possibly be in the best position in the house for now. I don’t think anyone feels the need to get rid of him right now because they feel like he’s a bit of a joke and they can control him. I don’t think he’ll be Jessica or Cody’s next target either. Hopefully even bad players would have learned that lesson. I like that he’s a real BB fan and his camera talking last night was great. I always liked players who want to tell the life feeders what they’re really thinking. You could also tell he really loves this game when he was camera talking to his mom and saying that even when he had the whole house to against him, he was having the best time of his life.

    • Sassy

      Nicely put! Josh has come a long way. Paul would benefit from backing him this week and sealing his friendship. Josh will be loyal til the end and its unlikely houseguests will vote for him to win because they all see him as a joke. He’d be my #1 pick to take to the finals at this point in the game.

      • Mel

        Sassy, I think you’re right and I think that’s all it would take. He’s already loyal to Paul and that may seal the deal. Paul wants Elena in the game but I don’t know if it’s worth giving up someone who does practically everything you want. I don’t blame Paul for pushing because he really needs Cody or Jess out of the house. Paul may lose something either way this week.

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    Helen (5241 comments)

    Jessica cracks me up….she thinks she is “somebody” because she knows “somebody”. LoL
    Well Messi….my niece lives in a beautiful home in the Hollywood Hills left to her by a famous record producer/mixologist who she lived with for many years and still receives his royalties from his record productions….That does not make me “somebody” nor does it mean I run in the same circles that she does…
    You are a joke Messi

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    Helen,I agree 100%. I don’t want her to be in jury with Cody.I want to see how w Cody acts without her there to correct him, everytime he opens his mouth.I don’t like him At All.But that being said, I think he may be totally different without her.

  15. AIO_7

    “She (Jess) is going to make someone up and see if Paul ‘knows’ him”

    Paul knows everyone, and Paul has been EVERYWHERE.

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    Paul told Kevin the other day he can beat Cody in any comp, no worries. Kevin gave him the side eye look. Now need to see Paul beast out and beat Cody in everything from now on, make good on his boast!! It would be nice to see Cody go home next week.

  17. Mel

    This has absolutely nothing to do with what’s going on today but something just reminded me of Scotts monologue about being in these BB streets for 14 years or however long he said. That’s still one of the funniest things I have ever seen on Big Brother. Anybody else have anything super memorable? I don’t mean Marcellus and his screw up with the veto or Will standing up and telling the entire house he hated them all. Those are iconic moments I’m wondering about small random things they aren’t as well known.

    • AIO_7

      Scott? Scott? Scott? That’s my problem, though I’ve followed BB since season 1, I usually forget these people in very short order once the season is over.

    • Shivani33

      Janelle was the funniest ever for me, particularly when aiming her darts at the Nerd Herd and at Maggie. Season 6 has remained a favorite. Out of context, Janelle quotes don’t convey witnessing her in action. “Pack your bags, b* tches!” One time she asked Maggie how “fishes have babies, ” since Maggie was the intellectual so-called superior. Leave it to Janelle to start a seemingly innocent conversation and turn it into hell on wheels. When Paul came in second to Nicole, Janelle said that it’s better to come in second and be loved than to come in first and be hated, adding her voice of experience. She said that Paul would see it, and has he ever.

      • Mel

        True. Janelle had some great comments. Her dr’s were hilarious too. Totally different personalities but I love everything that came out of Britney Haynes mouth in her dr’s too.

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        Janelle will always be the Queen… her best line in my book “Who’s the bunny now bitch?!?”
        I used to rotflmao at her and Kayser!!!

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    Helen (5241 comments)

    I wonder how Mark and Lips really are feeling knowing one of them could be last one out before jury because of Cody?
    Josh talks a big game about loyalty but he and Christmas both would be gone from BB19 if it were not for Paul

    • Gerardo (Domini-CAN not Domini-CAN'T)

      Well to be fair, Josh has made it very clear that he trusts Paul and feels he is very loyal to him. He just disagrees with Paul on who should go this week. But he told Alex and Jason last night that he wants Paul and Christmas to be Final 6 along with them and Kevin (I know, I know, it’s funny to hear Josh talking as if Paul isn’t the leader of the group…I’m just telling you what Josh said lol).

    • Mel

      I’m sure they feel the same as Jessica and Cody do thinking they will go home before jury because of someone else.Helen, tell me you’re not buying into Paul’s “someone’s being robbed of their jury spot” stuff. Lol

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        Helen (5241 comments)

        No. Lol not at all…’s just they have been closest to Jessica and Cody and now will be going before them…

  19. ElaineB

    Listened to Jessica lecture Josh about ‘character’ outside the house. Lol. She really is a piece of work.

  20. Colby

    Do we know who is playing for Veto yet?

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    @susancran it is silly to hold grudges but….

    – Josh has a grudge with (Mark at times, Cody, Elena this week)
    – Alex has one major grudge for Jess since the beginning of the game, and its not going anywhere with the latest allegations…
    – Jason holds onto his with Cody because he didn’t like Cody up in his face dictating to him weeks ago
    – Raven once ordered by Paul to put the emotional cry hit on Jess, is holding onto her grudge with Jess
    – Xmas has cooled a bit, but she held on ter grudge with Jess when her and Jess squared off in week two.
    – Cody has a grudge with Paul for sure and that started on the day the Vet returned day 1
    – Jessica can’t stand the minions as a whole, and is not a fan of Josh (her grudge with him is huge)
    – And Paul has the most grudges this season with Ramses, Dom, Cody, Jessica, Elena now, and to a lesser degree with Mark.

    …grudges seems to be the way to go when you wanna justify a move in this season of BB (like many past seasons as well).

  22. LindsayB

    Xmas told Josh about her temptation. Josh wants them to have a cool handshake. For some reason production thinks we want to watch Cody and Jessica state I gently into each other’s eyes instead of hear conversation in the rest of the house. At this point I really do think we have an argument to get a discount on our feeds.

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      Helen (5241 comments)

      There seems always to be at least two cameras on Jody…’s gotten old
      Personally I think veto comps and things like that should be shown on live feeds. That’s what we pay for. They are not going to lose their syndicated viewers irregardless. I think I have spent more time watching animals up for adoption or fish than I have getting to watch housepets….total time with down feeds yesterday was close to 12 hours….now they will more than likely be down for another 4 or 5 today

  23. LindsayB

    * stare. Not stay I. Wtf kind of autocorrect bullshit was that?

  24. LindsayB

    Raven is having a bad GP day so she’s gonna make it better by eating some boxed Mac n cheese and some chips. Good thing she’s getting her key nutrients to help her fight off her terminal disease. Y’all this just might be her last day.


  25. Sassy

    Jess and Cody in jury might be funny. When they ask them to put their keys in, both refuse to vote because they hate everyone…

    Elena may be a vote for Paul, but I doubt she would vote for either Josh or Xmas. Cody and Jess are going to have to flip a coin, he at least has a 50/50 shot of getting their vote.

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      I think it was last Sunday night Jess told Cody if she was in jury she was voting for Paul to win, unless it was Cody sitting next to Paul at the end. That as a fan she can admit Paul is playing better game than anyone. I don’t know if that will hold true when the time comes.

    • NKogNeeTow

      Sassy I don’t see Lips voting for Paul. There is something about her that seems vindictive.

  26. Colby

    It seems that Christmas used her temptation, I assume to take Cody down. But I don’t know who else is playing. I think it may be Alex.

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  28. Shivani33

    Cody crying; Christmas used her hex on him. Looks like Alex and Christmas play for veto, unless Christmas can’t with her foot.

    • Colby

      They seem to be pretty sure she can. Not really fair if she got that info up front.
      The seem to think it will be the numbers one. Before the veto draw they thought OTEV or spelling.

    • AIO_7

      If Christmas took Grody down, that means the house, perhaps sans Slosh, are targeting Jess.

      • Colby

        Because that is what Paul wants.

      • Sassy

        Or Paul just wanted that temptation gone, so she can’t use it to stab him with later. I HOPE next week, something happens where she needs it for her own safety!

      • AIO_7

        Sassy, that may be part of Paul’s motivation, but I really think he wants Jess gone.

      • Alda

        If they have any brains in their heads they’ll take out Jess.

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        Helen (5241 comments)

        Brains? Lmao!! That is funny

      • NKogNeeTow

        Let’s take Paul out of the equation. The rest of the house is weak and scared to make moves. This might be the only chance they have of getting either Messi or Grody out. The entire house wants them out but no one has the balls to do it. And they saw how Grody was after his HOH. Do you think he or Messi wouldn’t try to strong arm them again? Paul controls them too but his method is different from theirs. Grody and Messi are more “in your face” and they are the lords and masters. Paul makes them feel like they’re part of a team and that their input matters, even if he does have another agenda, he makes them feel like they’re part of the plan. Both sides (Messi/Grody vs Paul) are controlling. It’s HOW you take or use the control that determines what results you get.

      • LindsayB

        Damn NK, that was deep

      • Sassy

        NK – I think they are starting to realize Paul is not letting them be part of the plan. It is his way or no way. They are all to weak and incompetent to stand up to him. I have no respect for those following his orders. Although, I can not stand Paul, at least he is playing the game.

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    If Josh really really wants Elena to go home he has to win POV and take Jess down. Can’t see it happening but it would be a bold and perhaps dumb move.

  30. NKogNeeTow

    Grody just told Messi that whenever watching anything he never thought it was a good idea for a whole group to go after a small few. But when he was HOH, didn’t he try to rally his troop to all go after Paul and get him out? And all because he didn’t like Paul because he was a Vet. Turn about is fair play Sparky.

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      Didn’t he make the decision to go after Paul solo?

      • NKogNeeTow

        He did make the decision to go after Paul, but he also wanted the house to vote him out. And he wanted it BAD. Remember, he only put up Xmas because Paul pulled out that thingy on him. When Paul couldn’t be put up, Grody turned to Xmas and said “Christmas, you just got screwed. Take a seat.”….or something to that effect. He was so much so hellbent on getting Paul out of the house, that that’s then only time he allowed anyone in the HOH (other than Messi), to drill it into their heads that Paul had to go no matter what.

      • Sassy

        NK – I agree that is what happened, but he did not involve the rest of the house in the plan. It was his and his alone. He did not want anyone else blamed for what he was about to do.

      • NKogNeeTow

        Sassy, then I stand corrected. 🙂

    • Sassy

      The problem was he DIDN’T try to rally the troops first. He left them all in the dark and they are all still bitter.

    • Zach

      Careful NK, if you start talking badly about the prostitute or her personally BB dildo you’ll tick off the bully squad here at BBJ.

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    Helen (5241 comments)

    If there is a BB god let Elana win POV today….pretty please….Mr. Miami head just outgrew his bandanna

  33. Zach

    I get why Christmas used her temptation. But that could have really come in handy when it is down to 6-8 players and you want to keep someone from playing veto so you can back door them..

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      Helen (5241 comments)

      My personal opinion is that production wants these temptations used before double elimination which I think may be coming up next week…..
      I notice there is going to be another “special” episode on Friday August 18tg

  34. g8trgirl

    I’m confused. Why is everyone in the HOH telling Josh not to feel bad? What did I miss?

    • Shivani33

      Paul has been trying to get his dogs to disrupt Jessica before Veto comp. Josh doesn’t want it. Paul wants Jessica gone, and Josh still wants Elena gone. He feels his HoH wishes going down the drain as most seem to side with Paul, who was pressuring to bring out the pots and pans, etc. We know Josh was the pots and pans man, and he said he doesn’t want a repeat, that Jessica is already feeling badly, leave it be. Paul has two arms, legs, hands and can get the damn pots and pans going himself. But of course none of these asskissers would dare say so. Christmas remarked that the big madhouse scene brought out peoples’ true colors. Look who’s talking. Anyhow, this gives you a lot of the picture. It all got to Josh, so then all of the”schizoids” started cooing and doing the kumbaya to comfort him after demolishing him.

      • Sassy

        I like that Josh has a heart!

      • NKogNeeTow

        Thanks Shi. I only peeked at the Feeds for about 5 minutes, so I missed all of that. I love how I can always depend on you guys to keep us in the loop.

      • g8trgirl

        Thanks, Shi. Makes sense. Wish they would leave the kid alone for just a few minutes. Sheesh.

      • Mel

        He tried to get people to stay up last night and torment them too. Josh said he wasn’t because he wanted his sleep. This is the stuff that’s irritating to me. Get in their heads, sure but when it’s neverending, it just seems desperate.

      • Sassy

        It irritates me that they put Josh in that predicament. They tell him to do what they would never do themselves. Sometimes I wonder if Josh is playing with a full basket or if they are taking advantage of him for being a little slow.

      • Jenny

        Sassy, I don’t think Josh is a little slow, but I do think he is naive – and I agree that they take advantage of him. He reminds me of a big puppy dog who just wants to be loved. Except for that part early on when he got all paranoid and went off on Megan – that was just nuts.

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    Helen (5241 comments)

    So correct me if I’m wrong…
    Josh says his beef is with Cody because Cody disrespected him on national television.
    He orders housepets to leave Jessica alone because he respects her.
    Jessica went on national television and told him he was a disgusting human being and did not belong in game. Would be the ultimate satisfaction to be the one to send him home.

    Does anyone else feel like maybe they left the full order of fries out of his happy meal?

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      Yes, he is a man-child that is currently acting like a total diva if no one does what he says.

      • Mel

        He may be bothered by the fact that he’s spent 24 hrs pointing out that he’s done what all of them wanted and he’s realizing they arn’t going to return the favor.

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        Helen (5241 comments)

        Maybe he should consider where he would be at the moment if the house obeyed the orders of the HOH…..

    • NKogNeeTow

      Yep Helen. I love him but sometimes I think he forgives the wrong people at the wrong times.

    • Alda

      I agree Helen.I think Josh will start crying again if Jess goes home.He’ll apologize to Cody too.What has happened to meatball? Maybe its those new scarves they sent him.He might be tying them too tight.

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        Helen (5241 comments)

        I think that when housepets insert the key into HOH door their heads start expanding….
        The scarves are still the same size

  36. Mel

    Let’s make sure this is correct:

    There’s 3 people otb who are ALL targets of Paul, Josh and Xmas so a target WILL go home.

    Xmas lectures Josh about having a backbone.

    Josh insists he doesn’t want the temp used and Xmas agrees.

    Xmas is a peg leg and could really benefit from that temptation to help herself down the road.

    Xmas has done the most to regain a friendship of sorts with Jessica so she isn’t a target of Jessicas.

    Xmas uses her temptation.

    Uummmmmm, ok.

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      She realizes that Jessica and Cody together in jury is bad for anyone in the finals.

      • Mel

        I just don’t buy that based on all the convos she’s had. Paul wore her down and she’s scared to tell him no. It’s as simple as that. Done with Christmas.

      • Sassy

        They have to vote for someone… Although I will laugh if Cody refused to casts a vote! At least people would have a 50/50 chance with them. Elena would never vote for Xmas.

      • NKogNeeTow

        I don’t want to see Messi and Grody in the Jury together either. I can take WIR and Lips being in there because if she didn’t want anything to do with him in the house, she sure as hell will want nothing to do with him in the JH. She’d be mad because he didn’t/couldn’t protect her….sour grapes. MattRess and DMW would just annoy the f*ck out of everybody.

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      Helen (5241 comments)

      I’m really thinking Christmas is trying to create her own little empire…she knows it’s too soon to make her move against Paul so she’s really pushing hard for Josh to do things that really only benefit Christmas…they certainly don’t benefit Josh…

      • NKogNeeTow

        Helen, I’ve said time after time….Paul is in a tug of war of control between him and Xmas, he just doesn’t know it yet.

      • Shivani33

        Pegleg can’t do much to win since her way around is to hobble. She can go rest in the jury house soon and knows it would help her recuperate. I think she shot her temptation wad with an unnecessary WTH, in part aware that she can’t win the game since she got hurt. But she can lie in the California sunshine for sure, as long as she doesn’t get Paul too pissed at her and get evicted too soon. Maybe she gave away her temptation to just get on with it, like waving a white flag.

      • Mel

        I agree with that but Elena and Mark are worse for her game than Jess and Cody are. Elena is good for Paul, not Xmas and not Josh. He knows this and that’s why he hasn’t taken no for an answer.

      • NKogNeeTow

        Shi, the other night Xmas told Josh that she just wanted to help him get Messi, Grody and Lips out of the house and after that they could send her to Jury and she’d be fine with that.

        Jury House….Lower Expectations.

    • NKogNeeTow

      “Xmas is a peg leg”…..

      That had me screaming with laughter. Dan was right. You ARE a wordsmith…..LOL

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    I think my biggest problem with Josh is that he has two major personality flaws which are completely opposite of one another.

    On one hand, Josh is way too sensitive and cares what people think of him as a person in a game. He apologizes to Jessica way too much for acting a certain way when he never receives an apology back from either her or Cody to begin with or in return.

    On the opposite spectrum he isn’t humble when he wins which he is clearly showing right now. He believes he is humble, but he really isn’t. His want to evict Elena and how he is talking to the cameras after everyone leaves the room shows that. It’s like he all of a sudden turns in a G in front of the camera talking about how if people don’t do what he says then he’s going to start a war with them first. It’s a major power trip.

    If Josh could just be in the middle of both of those I described, he would be a solid player, but instead he’s just back and forth on both.

    He believes that he is going to get everyone to vote out Elena because he wants her out but in reality, no one is going to because, whether you agree with Paul or not, she’s a number and she’s a rational jury member. It’s laughable that he thinks that if they don’t listen to him that he’s going to “declare war” with them.

    Right now, he’s acting like a major diva. He walked into the kitchen earlier and then had to talk to Christmas because he was upset. Why was he upset? Because people were talking over him and not respecting him as HOH. That’s the kind of power trip he is on and he’s reverting back to the Josh we originally met when the first few weeks played out.

    This will end up being his downfall.

    • NKogNeeTow

      Ali, as much as I like him, we all know how that “declaring war” against them is going to go. They laugh and joke with him but they think he’s an idiot, so no one takes him seriously. The only thing he will accomplish by doing that is alienating himself and putting a target on his back as soon as Messi and Grody are out of the house.

    • Tiare

      Ali, I respectfully disagree. I don’t feel he is being a Diva. It is his HOH, and he should be able to do what he wants. He believes that Paul is loyal to him but he just wants paul to understand.

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        Oh he definitely is. He walked downstairs to the kitchen and when people were all talking over each other about random stuff and he tried to talk and someone talked over him he got upset and Christmas had to calm him down. That’s a diva.

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        Oh and you have to have the numbers and the rest of the houses best interests as well to do what you want as HOH. He doesn’t.

    • Alda

      Josh is one of those people that could win millions in the lottery,and be broke in a year!

      • Sassy

        Alda you may be being to generous! I think people would take advantage of him and he would be broke within the month.

  38. Mel

    Josh is saying not to mess with Jess during the comp and says they dont need to. Xmas and Alex are back in attack mode. They want to harass Jessica and say they have a right because she put herself otb since she used the hex. Xmas told Jess that using the temp wasn’t personal. Jess said it was because she’s using it to take her out of the game instead of to save herself. Xmas says she’s doing her a favor. Xmas puts it to Elena that Jess was insinuating that Mark and Elena didn’t deserve to be there. Elena is offended because Jess would rather stay than have Elena stay. Paul was giving advice on which comp he thinks it is. Rumor is that it’s the haunted house comp from OTT so if it is, Paul is way off base.

    • NKogNeeTow

      Since Josh said that he will go HAM on anyone who messes with Messi, he’s also said that Alex and Xmas were his girls and the ones he can depend on. It will be interesting to see how he handles it when he finds out that they’re doing exactly what he told them not to. Josh didn’t want them to knock Messi off her game because he said that he really wants her to win Veto so she can take herself off the block and Lips would be voted out.

      Can’t wait to see what happens when or if he finds out what’s going on.

      • ElaineB

        Well obviously Christmas isn’t ‘his gal’ after her convos with him earlier about not using the temp, and yet she did.

    • Sassy

      Hmmm… What is wrong with these people? Of coarse each of them should think they deserve to stay and put their own safety above all others. I don’t get why they get mad when someone is attempting to save themselves.

      Hurry with the veto comp already!! I want to know who won…

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      Helen (5241 comments)

      That was the temptation comp yesterday…the haunted house

    • ElaineB

      How is Christmas using the temptation to keep Cody from playing not personal against Jessica? Yikes, I am still a bit surprised that she used the temp after listening to her conversations earlier in the day. Since that was a temp that didn’t have an expiration date, just seems silly for Christmas to have used it for this one.

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        If she doesn’t use it when everyone else wanted her it could be perceived that she isn’t a team player and put a target on her back. She made the smart move

      • Mel

        They want everyone otb gone so it’s a win win week. Paul couldn’t stand the thought ofCody playing in the veto. I don’t blame him. He’s looking out for himself. It’s also why he doesn’t want Elena to go. Xmas should have done the same.

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      I know Steve has posted it before but how much are these sheep getting paid?

  39. Sassy

    Since I am impatiently waiting for Veto results, I was wondering what ever happened with the weekly poll? Is it time for a new one or are we still in the same week?

  40. Painter1

    New thread ALERT!!!!!!!

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